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  • sumdumguy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 11988

    Donald Trump never tried to pull off what is going on here. This is not democracy - all power concentrated in one third of the country. Take away the free press, guns and finally cut off their ability to make a living and feed their families. Evil!
    Last edited by sumdumguy; Feb 5, 2023, 08:12.

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    • chuckChuck
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 12860

      Except there is a good chance Trudeau will lose the next election if Ontario and Quebec vote against him.

      And the provinces have a lot of jurisdiction.

      If anything rural areas have less voters per constituency than many of the larger cities.

      Anybody who equates Canada with Russia and Putin doesn't know much.

      Most of the voters in Canada are moderate centre left so the governments reflect that.

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      • sumdumguy
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 11988

        Since you asked for it:
        Let’s look at the facts.

        Trump built the strongest economy ever.
        Biden trashed it as fast as he could.
        Trump managed inflation at 1.7%
        Biden rocketed it to 8.9%
        Trump gas cost $2.27 at pumps - US became net exporter of oil.
        Biden gas costs up to $7.60 at pumps - US is begging for the dirtiest oil on the planet.
        Trump maintained a respectable border.
        Biden opened the doors wide to illegals by the millions.
        Trump earned world-wide respect
        Biden couldn’t even shoot down a balloon on land so it’s contents could be examined (with one of the largest military on the planet.)

        Just facts Chuck Head.
        Last edited by sumdumguy; Feb 5, 2023, 08:42.

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        • biglentil
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 3263

          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          Putin and the oligarchs are threatened by democracy and a free press.
          In March 2022 Zelenski restricted the opposition party and nationalized all media. In Chucks upside down world that is what he calls democracy.

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          • sumdumguy
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 11988

            Originally posted by biglentil View Post
            In March 2022 Zelenski restricted the opposition party and nationalized all media. In Chucks upside down world that is what he calls democracy.
            Same crap here in our faces every day.

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            • jazz
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2018
              • 9308

              There is nothing left of Ukraine to save.

              pop 37M before the war.

              10M fled to Europe
              2M moved to Russia proper
              Millions more cleaved off into new russian territory in Donbass region.

              Whats left in eastern Ukraine, maybe 15M.

              It already over. If ukraine loses the Bahkmut area, its clear sailing to Kyiv.

              Should have negotiated clown Zelensky.

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              • chuckChuck
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 12860

                And Jazz you are cheering Putin and the demise of Ukraine on!

                The far right are proving once again how far out to lunch they are.

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                • shtferbrains
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 5226

                  Jazz you would enjoy that Analysis I suggested above.
                  Not a propaganda piece either way.
                  Mistakes were made by all but considering Zalensky a clown and puppet was one of the biggest.
                  Putin is at another level for intelligence compared to the world leaders we suffer with but let the corruption get out of control.
                  A must read if you are interested in what some of the issues are in that part of the world.

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                  • agstar77
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 6208

                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    There is nothing left of Ukraine to save.

                    pop 37M before the war.

                    10M fled to Europe
                    2M moved to Russia proper
                    Millions more cleaved off into new russian territory in Donbass region.

                    Whats left in eastern Ukraine, maybe 15M.

                    It already over. If ukraine loses the Bahkmut area, its clear sailing to Kyiv.

                    Should have negotiated clown Zelensky.
                    If any of your B.S. occurs Russia will be fighting NATO. It will be total war with Russia 's arsenal depleted.

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                    • sumdumguy
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 11988

                      Could be the end of Russia but they’d have to de-nuke Russia first.

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