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  • sumdumguy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 12098

    Finally, people with brains who are larger than frauds. Smartest of scientists who refuse to be prostitutes, who realize that CO2 is the staff of green life and that CO2 benefits result in food production - benefits that are far more valuable than the threat dreamed up of 1/8 of a millimetre rise of water in the Florida bogs.

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    • wade
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2000
      • 288

      Originally posted by Bin Lurking
      For the last 15 years or so at least 8 new turbines come on line every day in the U.S
      And that's nothing compared to china
      That is one scary thought!

      Nothing lasts forever and some day they will have to be dealt with.

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      • chuckChuck
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 13202

        John Francis Clauser is an experimental physicist and member of the board of directors4 of the CO2 Coalition, a group that claims that both CO2 emissions and associated global warming would be “of great benefit to life on earth.”

        The whole earth none the less? That statement is incredibly stupid!

        What about the coastal cities that will see flooding? Oh ya that will be of "great benefit" LOL

        Or the loss of coral reefs do to a warming ocean? Who does that benefit?

        The list goes on.....

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        • sumdumguy
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 12098

          Chuck, do they pay you overtime to work on the weekend?

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          • jazz
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2018
            • 9308

            Originally posted by Bin Lurking
            Do you even read what you write?
            Wind turbines now 85 to 95 % recyclable, and partially made with recycled materials, circular economy.
            Fossil fuels 0%, won't last forever and some day that will have to be dealt with.
            You do know that Ab sits on 2.5t bbls of oil right? There are rumours of Alaska and Russia having similar amounts. There is no need to push an inferior technology at all.

            Do you think we can master fusion in 10,000 yrs because we have oil to last that long.

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            • wade
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2000
              • 288

              Originally posted by Bin Lurking
              Do you even read what you write?
              Wind turbines now 85 to 95 % recyclable, and partially made with recycled materials, circular economy.
              Fossil fuels 0%, won't last forever and some day that will have to be dealt with.
              Nothing lasts forever Technology will come up with a better source of power and at that rate of new additions, what then? Can be recycled but is it cost and climate efficient to do so?

              Eventually they will have to be dealt with. One way or another. The concrete also.

              Also, I didn't say that fossil fuels will last forever and won't need to be dealt with. But maybe we could learn some lessons and look further down the road. It's scary

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              • binthere
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 599

                Has been austranada now bin lurking. How much is "partial"?

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                • AlbertaFarmer5
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 12627

                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  John Francis Clauser is an experimental physicist and member of the board of directors4 of the CO2 Coalition, a group that claims that both CO2 emissions and associated global warming would be “of great benefit to life on earth.”

                  The whole earth none the less? That statement is incredibly stupid!

                  What about the coastal cities that will see flooding? Oh ya that will be of "great benefit" LOL

                  Or the loss of coral reefs do to a warming ocean? Who does that benefit?

                  The list goes on.....
                  The coral reefs are half a billion years old. Somehow they survived through temperatures far higher than today, and through CO2 levels many multiples of todays. Why do you think they will be lost due to this short interglacial warm period?


                  Do you understand the difference between net change vs individual?

                  You are concerned about cities flooding due to the continued sea level rise, which has been happening almost unabated for over 10,000 years, swallowing civilizations as it goes, all the while humans have continued to grow and thrive in spite of these losses. Since this is a farmer forum, not a city forum, lets make this relevant to agriculture.

                  Pretend you are a capitalist farmer. Farming in the semi arid prairie. Yields are very poor and unpredictable due to lack of rainfall. You have the opportunity to install irrigation, which will quadruple your average yields, but you will have to sacrifice 2% of your land to irrigation canals, pivots, pump stations, wheel tracks etc.

                  By your logic, you decline irrigation because of the loss of the 2%, while ignoring the massive benefit to the remaining 98%. While you focus on losing 2%, math says you would be missing out on gaining 4*.98= 3.92 times more production. That is the net benefit. Same as occurs with warming.

                  To take your concern to the ridiculous extreme, the world should have been the most productive and prosperous when the sea levels were at their lowest, and much of the land mass was covered in ice. Do you know why the glacial maxima are not referred to as climate optimums in the scientific literature?
                  Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Sep 1, 2023, 14:35.

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                  • shtferbrains
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 5363

                    How do the prices these mega offshore wind farms are asking for compare to what you get for your power you sell to Sask Power?

                    Do you get more or less Chuck?

                    If we were able to access power from these mega sized state of the art offshore wind farms how much would that reduce our electric bills.
                    Running EV'S off of renewables is ideal so how much cheaper per mile than ice vehicles?

                    USD to CAN$ is about 1.36 if you want to figure that in.

                    "$EQNR $BP Equinor, BP seek 54% hike in US offshore wind power price, filings show

                    Norway's Equinor and its partner BP are seeking a 54% increase for the price of power produced at three planned offshore U.S. wind farms, according to a filing made by a New York state regulatory authority.

                    According to NYSERDA, the so-called strike price for Empire Wind 1 would rise from $118.38 per megawatt hour (MWh) to $159.64/MWh and for Empire Wind 2 from $107.50/MWh to $177.84/MWh. Beacon Wind would see the strike price rise from 118.00/MWh to 190.82/MWh."
                    Last edited by shtferbrains; Sep 1, 2023, 11:36.

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                    • furrowtickler
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 22439

                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      John Francis Clauser is an experimental physicist and member of the board of directors4 of the CO2 Coalition, a group that claims that both CO2 emissions and associated global warming would be “of great benefit to life on earth.”

                      The whole earth none the less? That statement is incredibly stupid!

                      What about the coastal cities that will see flooding? Oh ya that will be of "great benefit" LOL

                      Or the loss of coral reefs do to a warming ocean? Who does that benefit?

                      The list goes on.....
                      Hmmmmmm
                      [IMG]https://www.agriville.com/upload_image/uploades/medium/3521693590215.jpg

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