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Year in review: hearing hard truths about First Nations farmers

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  • furrowtickler
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    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    And the Irish did terrible things to themselves as well.

    Look beyond your own experience and try to see the world from someone else perspective.

    Its starts with understanding the history and current situation.
    It starts at home , no matter what nationality , race , whatever

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  • Guest
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    And the Irish did terrible things to themselves as well.

    as did the natives (i.e. comanche)
    Last edited by Guest; Jan 12, 2023, 09:22.

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  • cropgrower
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    you dont have a clue what you are talking about

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  • chuckChuck
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    And the Irish did terrible things to themselves as well.

    Look beyond your own experience and try to see the world from someone else perspective.

    Its starts with understanding the history and current situation.

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  • Sheepwheat
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    Hiring natives to tin my barn roof is for sure “systemic racism”.

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  • cropgrower
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    well i grew up in ireland , i am certainaly not to blame for anything that was done to the first nations folk here , in fact the irish folk had terrible things done to them also

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  • chuckChuck
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    Its not just the history of mal treatment of fist nations, it's the current treatment and systemic racism as well.

    But of course a lot of conservatives want to make it an issue of personal responsibilty and blame fisrt nations instead of accepting that we created a lot of the problems and continue to cause a lot of the problems.

    Its a case of blaming the victim instead of admitting we were and are complicit as a society of mistreating first nations.

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  • sumdumguy
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    [QUOTE=chuckChuck;557679]Easy to say Tom because you probably had all the privilege of growing up in a stable family, with a good home, education and a supportive successful community that didn't have as many social problems to overcome.

    Yes, you are right, we live what we are taught. There is a genuine will in the native community amongst some to live a good life and that should be supported. You just have to look around and see both good and bad in all communities. The other day I had to slip a poor white guy a nice Uk Xmas present cause he was so destitute. We do care about our fellow man but we can’t do everything for them. Our welfare system is there to look after unfortunates and some depend on that safety net. And that’s fine but some are striving to overcome the effects of their upbringing and that too must be supported. I’d rather support the natives who need help before others.

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  • shtferbrains
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    These people must have been at your place yesterday Chuck.
    You have a very clear view of what is going on out at the rez.
    But maybe viewed from a long ways away.
    More the big picture?
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  • Sheepwheat
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    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    That is what reconciliation is about.

    And the younger generations are learning the history and stories and attitudes are changing on both sides.

    When Conservative Steve Harper made that apology for residential schools it was a watershed moment.
    Nothing changed. Since the apology, it’s gotten worse. The apology meant nothing to one side, nothing at all.

    Revised history is different than true history.

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