Soverignty Acts

[tweety]

I can smell the election cheat already. We are seeing push polls claiming nutly to be more popular than she is. Kenney ran on a right wing program and got 53% of the vote. He then governed from the left in a huge double cross and today is unemployed. Anyways, a guy will have to be a scrutineer this next election in swing ridings and not back down. Huge mess in Arizona right now with election fraud everywhere.

Push polls and Trump claiming election fraud.

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[ajl]

Maybe so, but it has a nice little confederation bomb attached to it that may get your result at the end of the day.

So the act passes. If Trudeau uses disallowance thats going to raise eyebrows in quebec who rely on this clause. Smith can evoke the NWC to override disallowance anyway.

If Trudeau goes to the SCC to see if its constitutional, that opens up Quebecs use of it and I imagine they will be there to fight along side AB.

The Canadian constitution says nothing about how provincial legislatures legislate, so he has no opening there.

The only thing we have to worry about is Rachel Nazi and the commies in Edmonton. Imagine the funds from Soros and Schwab will start pouring in.

I can smell the election cheat already. We are seeing push polls claiming nutly to be more popular than she is. Kenney ran on a right wing program and got 53% of the vote. He then governed from the left in a huge double cross and today is unemployed. Anyways, a guy will have to be a scrutineer this next election in swing ridings and not back down. Huge mess in Arizona right now with election fraud everywhere.

[tweety]

Maybe so, but it has a nice little confederation bomb attached to it that may get your result at the end of the day.

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There is no confederation bomb because there is no confederation.

[tweety]

Nobody ever said DS was a genius.
Kenney wasn't wrong with his critique of the state of democracy.
So how to reverse the polarization trend?
Trudeau and his kind have long been the instigators.
The only debates revolve around compliance never refusal.
The do as I say not as I do style of treating the regions has to stop.
But the West is the only bad guy?
Ottawa ignores the hillbillies at everyone's peril. Whether right or wrong.

Can you give an example or 2 of Ottawa not listening that doesn't involve oil?

[blackpowder]

Nobody ever said DS was a genius.
Kenney wasn't wrong with his critique of the state of democracy.
So how to reverse the polarization trend?
Trudeau and his kind have long been the instigators.
The only debates revolve around compliance never refusal.
The do as I say not as I do style of treating the regions has to stop.
But the West is the only bad guy?
Ottawa ignores the hillbillies at everyone's peril. Whether right or wrong.

[tweety]

She should have just skipped the pleasantries, and the facade of attempting to work within confederation, and started out with the inevitable separation.
This is destined to fail, probably designed to fail. I assume that is the intention, to turn more people against Ottawa, and show that there is no workable solution within the legal framework available.
This just wastes more vauable time. And I'm not convinced it is worth wasting the political capital.

Oh it will work for what is wanted - that is the problem.

2 big errors however.

1. Supreme Court already ruled separation is unconstitutional and breaks international law. There is no right for a Province to secede from Canada. And don't point to the Clarity Act like the uninformed do.

2. Canada is a Federation since 1867 when the 3 countries united, not a confederate association of sovereign states. You should have learned that in Junior High.

Do your homework.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Where should she have gone to?

She should have just skipped the pleasantries, and the facade of attempting to work within confederation, and started out with the inevitable separation.
This is destined to fail, probably designed to fail. I assume that is the intention, to turn more people against Ottawa, and show that there is no workable solution within the legal framework available.
This just wastes more vauable time. And I'm not convinced it is worth wasting the political capital.

[tweety]

Thanks for clarification. Smell test worries me. Needs some fixing so it doesn’t smell bad.

It will be interesting indeed. I see the Calgary Chamber has released their statement. Big thumbs down.

[WiltonRanch]

Yes, but....

MLAs would be given a free vote on the motions, which will describe the alleged infraction and how it hurts Alberta. Once passed, the resolutions become non-binding recommendations to cabinet.

The legislation would allow cabinet to direct provincial entities, including municipalities, municipal police forces, post-secondary institutions, school districts and regional health authorities not to enforce federal laws. Cabinet could also direct a minister to issue an order or directive.

The bill is silent on what happens if any organization refuses to follow cabinet's directives and continues to follow federal law.

Any measures made by cabinet must be in line with the Constitution, nor can they undermine Indigenous rights. The government says it will respect court rulings that find its actions are unconstitutional.

Powers used by cabinet would end two years after a resolution is passed. Cabinet could decide to extend them for an additional two years.

The bill also limits the time frame an organization can ask for a judicial review to 30 days, instead of the usual six months.

The court must judge the government's actions using the standard of "patent unreasonableness" instead of the less stringent and more common thresholds of unreasonableness or correctness.

The bill also aims to protect the government and provincial entities from civil proceedings launched due to consequences that arise from the act.

Thanks for clarification. Smell test worries me. Needs some fixing so it doesn’t smell bad.

[tweety]

At least Saskatchewan first act works within the Canadian constitution. Hard for the SCC or Feds to shoot it down. The Alberta act though I agree with in principle doesn’t pass the smell test. The rule of law is necessary wherever you sit politically. We complain about how the rule of law was broken when the ema was enacted. To the credit of Alberta if the law is considered to be enacted the legislature has to debate and agree before it is sent to cabinet. This is what I’ve gathered.

Yes, but....

MLAs would be given a free vote on the motions, which will describe the alleged infraction and how it hurts Alberta. Once passed, the resolutions become non-binding recommendations to cabinet.

The legislation would allow cabinet to direct provincial entities, including municipalities, municipal police forces, post-secondary institutions, school districts and regional health authorities not to enforce federal laws. Cabinet could also direct a minister to issue an order or directive.

The bill is silent on what happens if any organization refuses to follow cabinet's directives and continues to follow federal law.

Any measures made by cabinet must be in line with the Constitution, nor can they undermine Indigenous rights. The government says it will respect court rulings that find its actions are unconstitutional.

Powers used by cabinet would end two years after a resolution is passed. Cabinet could decide to extend them for an additional two years.

The bill also limits the time frame an organization can ask for a judicial review to 30 days, instead of the usual six months.

The court must judge the government's actions using the standard of "patent unreasonableness" instead of the less stringent and more common thresholds of unreasonableness or correctness.

The bill also aims to protect the government and provincial entities from civil proceedings launched due to consequences that arise from the act.