Soverignty Acts

[tweety]

You support the outcomes of our system based on democratic principle.
Do you support the structure of our system as being fairly representative?

Based on population, it is fair representation. Except for SK and MB in the West, and the maritimes, they have a few too many MP's. But when you look at the majority of the seats - what is there to complain about?

Population per MP

BC 121k
AB 120k
Sk 84k
MB 98k
Ont 121k
Que 110k
NB 79k
NS 90k

So, do you think there is fair representation?

[blackpowder]

Foreign investment has curbed over a few decades due to ignorance of many politicians over those years. The Liberal push has always been the driver.

Ask anyone who moved back to the Maritimes recently and is coming back here. You'll get the same answer.
They no longer seem to fit in.
And living where the money is allows them to be home every night while making 3 times the income.
It's really the Chuck's of the world with their heads in the sand.

[WiltonRanch]

Holy sht, did Smith drop a bomb into confederation. Quebec is inspired now, both the Bloc and PQ are jealous and endorse it

So if Trudeau tries to shut this down, do we have an ally in Quebec for the fight.

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The west and Quebec have more in common than they know. Central Canada have pushed the narrative forever to keep us all Balkanized. Even the equalization scheme stokes division and is a carrot to keep Quebec in Canada. It’s a weird situation.

[jazz]

Holy sht, did Smith drop a bomb into confederation. Quebec is inspired now, both the Bloc and PQ are jealous and endorse it

So if Trudeau tries to shut this down, do we have an ally in Quebec for the fight.

[jazz]

The Calgary Chamber represents coffee shops and retail outlets and restaurants. I dont care what they think. They happily closed up shop for a few sniffles.

I only care what Suncor and Canadian Natural think.

60,000 people moved into Ab last yr. I think investment will be just fine.

[shtferbrains]

With climate activists in positions of power the only certainty is that things will get stupider.

Most of the US is more attractive now.

Sask has moved ahead of Alberta as more political stable.
They need to prove they can control our resource assets and handle the Fed gatekeepers.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Calgary Chamber of Commerce is very concerned the Sovereignty Act will create uncertainty, which will make it hard to attract investment.

This we can agree on. Investors want certainty. Even if that certainty is in the form of prohibitive regulations and carbon taxes etc., at least it is predictable, they can budget for it. Right now, they have a genuine fear that Notley could get back in as a result of the media attacks on this bill.

That is my biggest fear with a long protracted separation process of death by a thousand cuts, as we pretend to try to make the current arrangement work. This will stretch out for decades, and in the process, make us a high risk investment area. Much like what happened to Quebec, which they have never recovered from. The difference being, the oil and gas and coal and soil etc. will still be here when this is all over, and demand will still be there. But I still maintain the best possible outcome is to wake up one day and the US announces that we have been annexed. End of story.

[blackpowder]

They kind of double dip on the dams as they the income is exempt in the equalization.

And a deduct for the carbon tax

[shtferbrains]

And dont tell him the oil companies have paid out $700B to Quebec since 1960, built a lot of nice hydro dams.

They kind of double dip on the dams as they the income is exempt in the equalization.

[blackpowder]

Or is it no one wants to be told what to do by a democratically elected leader no matter the color of their stripe? Think how many people in the US still call Trump their President even though there is only 1 democratically elected President and is the President for all American citizens.

Canada is no different. The Liberal party has the most seats and with the NDP has a majority if they both agree, Justin Trudeau is the Prime Minister. Yet he is called a traitor and dictator even though he is just doing the job he was democratically elected in Canada to do.

Now, a premier elected by about 1% of Alberta - and even then just over half the support of that small sample, makes an unprecedented Act that removes the courts from making legal and constitutional challenges to suspend an Act and giver her the full power instead..... Isn't a dictator but a hero by most likely illegally not doing the legislation on a whim that is rightfully decided federally by Canada as a whole.

The numbers easily show why the carbon tax isn't popular in an area mostly Cons.

When Research Co. and Glacier Media asked Canadians about the court’s decision, a majority of Canadians (57%) said it was correct, while 29% disagreed and 13% were not sure. Significant majorities of Canadians who voted for the Liberal Party and the New Democratic Party (NDP) in the 2019 federal election think the court was right (71% and 70% respectively), while only 32% of Conservative Party supporters share this view.


So it quite easily shows that Canada supports the Carbon Tax. Why would Alberta think that laws and legislation constitutionally created federally all of a sudden does not apply to them? Do they think laws for murder do not apply as well? The Supreme Court easily says it does.

Also, municipalities may want to follow federal legislation - and are required to do so - but yet the Province all of sudden says not anymore, you do what ever a handful of MLA's in cabinet want, you no longer have federal law if we don't want you to.

Best line is "We knew this Act was going to be a dogs breakfast, just didn't know it was going thru the dog first."

Talking to people in the office here, this is the jist of the concern. Bad legislation, but great politics that plays into the favorite slight of hand with populism of woe is the little guy in AB always down trodden.

Will be very interesting going forward.

And there is always Section 33 which makes the SA completely unnecessary if it were not for the sleazy power grab of cabinet. Even Sask used Section 33 for Public/School nwc.

You support the outcomes of our system based on democratic principle.
Do you support the structure of our system as being fairly representative?