Nordstream pipelines

[shtferbrains]

Stranded production and driving investment away?

We're not at war with anyone are we?

Isn't Putin getting more than western select?

[TOM4CWB]

Stranded production and driving investment away?

We're not at war with anyone are we?

Isn't Putin getting more than western select?

Germany needs to borrow $200billion euros… to make it through / tackle the gas price surge…

Facebook Meta is now doing budget cuts and layoffs…

The Ukrainian war has cost the world economy over $8.9 Trillion




Cheers

[jazz]

OMG Tom you are going right off the rails.

How much did covid cost the world. More than $30T was printed up during that period and that doesn't even account for the social costs.

US blew up Nord stream to stop Germany from pivoting back to Russia for energy. They were testing under water drones in that same region mere days ago.

There are already riots and protests starting in many EU countries. German economy will be destroyed just to be a US deep state lapdog.

[WiltonRanch]

OMG Tom you are going right off the rails.

How much did covid cost the world. More than $30T was printed up during that period and that doesn't even account for the social costs.

US blew up Nord stream to stop Germany from pivoting back to Russia for energy. They were testing under water drones in that same region mere days ago.

There are already riots and protests starting in many EU countries. German economy will be destroyed just to be a US deep state lapdog.

This is what I was thinking as well but I wouldn’t count out a Russian false flag. They’re kings of bullshit and disinformation.

[sumdumguy]

It is criminal that Trudeau is so stubborn. Canada sits on a treasure trove of energy. Europe needs a reliable source and Trudeau just sticks his nose in the air and says, “ there’s no infrastructure here”, and “I ain’t about to budge because it’ll make the West rich.” That’s our boy wonder.

[beaverdam]

Much as I think Russia blew it up I don’t see a good reason for them to do so. Cut off their nose …. However Russia/Putin has been backed in a corner and when so animals and humans do illogical things. Only thing I can reason is it’s a false flag to implicate the USA. Seen a Biden speech floating around where he says Nordstream should be stopped by any means possible. Imagine Russian actors are helping it be distributed but context is key as well. Funny though that another pipeline from Norway is coming on stream and capacity can be doubled. Maybe Norway blew it. Aside from present smaller capacity Russian gas is cut off from the west. They are stuck with India and China at discounted rates. I’m perplexed by it all.

Here's the link to that speech, I posted it on page 1

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1490792461979078662

[beaverdam]

Media "news Depts" are saying it must be Russia that blew up the pipelines,,, because Russia would benefit from rising energy prices in Europe due to the pipelines being shutin.

But weren't the lines already being shutdown, and wasn't Russia's energy being boycotted, and to be completely shutout of Europe by spring?

What if the ChiComs blew it up, they could sit back and watch the blame being tossed back and forth between USA and Russia. All the while, Russia has lost out on sales to Europe, and with extra gas now available, could mean cheaper prices for China.

[sumdumguy]

Maybe the Vikings blew them up, some one knows, but for sure it’s not us, we’ve had our noses in chaff and our scuba diving gear is rotting in the boathouse. All we know for sure is that we aren’t Europeans because our brave ancestors hopped on a boat destined for the “Pallister Triangle”. 💪🏼🐎💪🏼

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I can't even speculate on who did this.
But, in the back of my mind, I keep thinking about all of the grain supposedly in Russia, trying to find a home. If some party was willing and able to sabatoge the pipeline for natural gas, would they also target other exports? Grain ships, or ports, what about mines and the related infrastrucure and shipping?

Impossible to defend every inch of a pipeline outside your own borders, even harder to defend shipping all over the world. How much of that grain might not make it to the final destination? Has this probability spooked the market lately?

[beaverdam]

I can't even speculate on who did this.
But, in the back of my mind, I keep thinking about all of the grain supposedly in Russia, trying to find a home. If some party was willing and able to sabatoge the pipeline for natural gas, would they also target other exports? Grain ships, or ports, what about mines and the related infrastrucure and shipping?

Impossible to defend every inch of a pipeline outside your own borders, even harder to defend shipping all over the world. How much of that grain might not make it to the final destination? Has this probability spooked the market lately?

Won't China and India(& Pakistan due to their losses from flooding) take Russia's grain? If Russia is limited on who they can export to,,, might mean cheap grain for both those countries.