Planter / drill

[Ache4Acres]

In our area this year the guys trying the disc drills are eating some humble pie and going for the second round of seeding

Granted an ugly dry and windy year but their seedlings had no furrow protection. Disc was level with surface and they got sandblasted as soon as they popped their heads up....chopped off at the neck too young.

Maybe we benefit from a furrow for those young seeds here in the dust bowl and maybe we all need a Furrowtickler to edjimicate us now and then....as Always thanks for sharing everyone...we are all better for it...despite the anger and jealousy out there!! #rainbringsgrain...still smiling here.

[furrowtickler]

Or planter for that matter , it may not be "the" answer to anything .... again just sharing info with fellow farmers ..

[furrowtickler]

Over 15'years of data , over thousands of acres is enough data for me to see that it is not solely the drill you choose.

[furrowtickler]

And that's with those terrible Tec- no tills that are taboo .... lol
They work great

[furrowtickler]

Some of the best most consistent yields in this area , have come from a average family farm , that oh my god , that thinks out side the box .
They use a Flexicoil 800 frame , spaced out at 15 in , with just the valmar/ granular applicator for the canola seed and a tow between liquid cart.
Again always top end yields and virtually never sprayed for sclerotinia .
But seed hawks / and seed masters always right up there as well
Just making a point

[furrowtickler]

And the other 74 , are running everything you can imagine in between .
Never a perfect drill .
It's the wizard not the wand

[furrowtickler]

And yes they work very well

One interesting note after doing yield tests for over 20 years , my neighbour has an ole "shitty" Bourgault 8800 drill, piece of junk ..... hmmmm , always in the top three .... hmmmmmm
Out of 75 plus guys . Must be the shitty Bourgault I guess

[furrowtickler]

There is a lot of huge $600,000 plus drills everywhere that used for exclusively canola
Your thread is bunk ...

[tweety]

Craig's conclusion after 3 years:

"The big question mark is whether a precision drill is worth the expenditure, especially in an environment where it’s exclusively used for canola seeding,” said Shaw. “As you move further south into country that grows corn, sugar beets and soy, you’d have more acres you could use that kind of planter on, so it would be easier to warrant that additional expense. But up here, it’s a significant cost when you can only use it for a single crop.”.

His three-year on-farm trial now complete, Shaw has returned the borrowed planter to the Lacombe research station — and isn’t planning on buying one for his operation.

“The reality is that the planter isn’t the be-all and end-all answer to every issue,” he said. “Yup, it improved certain things and made achieving consistency easier. But what we really saw was that environment is critical.

“The more things you can get right at planting — the No. 1 factor being good residue management — the better the odds that you can get away with reduced seeding rates. It’s a package concept — the better the seedbed you put it into, the better those seeds are going to do, regardless of how you get them in the ground.”

[sawfly1]

great thread , thanks furrow , we always knew narrow in wheat was good.
4 inch was the best 30 years ago.
neighbour is starting to make me look bad, again , just beautiful crops.
he is done spraying , today spraying some magic potion ,
i assume liquid fert.

need guys like that to sharpen our game.

but my 3310 bour. gives me good results , in spite of me .
almost foolproof. not a lot precision here , cold as it was , should have been shallower, just lots of fert. and hope for the best. kinda works out . most of the time .
what i did notice is, had different canola varieties , side by side , one with lubriderm, one without
like night and day.
i did not fry the canola with too much phos, it was bugs that thinned it out
more than twice the stand