cost of production

[hobbyfrmr]

Darren442,

I am an organic farmer, I am interested in the product you describe. It will have to be on the list as an acceptable product for the USDA NOP certification.

[darren442]

To respond to these questions our customers yields meet and beat other farmers. Bgmd your thinking like a crop supplier . And for a 40 bu of canola sure it needs 120 lbs of N, Of dry fertilizer low grade poor effeciancy 46-0-0. If your using dry fert we can only help so much but if your using Liquid WOW thats were we can take 20 gallons of 28-0-0 ( remeber 3 lbs of N per gallon ( and make it work like 120 Lbs of 46-0-0. And why so much K remember K on the salt index is 116 table salt is 165 would you plant seed into table salt ?? And if your soil is low in S adding high rates of N can put your crop into a S defficiency. FACT
And Bluefargo files get fat like that beacause what crop supplier wants to loose up to half his income . Keep the farmer dumb so we can keep selling fert and chem i did it to and i will never do it again.I'm not saying all crop suppliers think like that because they don't but some do. If i come out to see a farmer for the first time i do not want to see a cheque book any were near me.

And yes we have certified organic products. And organic farmers have been using them for years and are very very happy.

Our way of thinking goes back as far as the 1920. back in 1921 a gentleman wrote a book about all this his name was John Bracken.In his book Roy Hansen M.S professor of Soils University of Saskatchewan writes
" It should be the business of every progressive farmer to give as much thought to the soil he is working as he does to his machinery or animals. Just as his farm animals and machinery fail to give good returns from bad treatment,so the soil will likewise fail to produce under irrational treatment"

So now i ask if your putting on 120 lbs of N ect for a 40 bu canola then if you put on 130 pounds do you get 50 bu an acre ??? and so on and so on. Now if we can achieve a healthy living soil and use are chemicals and fertilizer more effeciantly then to reach that 40 bu/ac we will not need 120 lbs of N and less chemicals.

[darren442]

One last note we are recognized by a provincial government to be a environmental company. We have been doing this for 29 years.

And if you have Salinty problems with are system you will see results in reducing your salinty problems the first year. If you want to talk email me at darren.soil@gmail.com with some contact info and we'll start there.

[bgmb]

I'll try to be more clear Darren,

Below is a list of macro nutrients that are needed to grow a 40 bu/ac crop of canola.

A 40 bu crop in the swath on average will contain;
n-p-k-s
120-52-94-24

The 40bu/ac that you haul off the field on average will contain;
n-p-k-s
75-36-18-13

If your average canola yield is 40 bu/ac and you aren't adding on average 75-36-18-13 then you are mining your soil of nutrients end of story.

Nutrients don't appear out of thin air and go into your soil. I suppose small amounts may come in with rain? and pulse crops will put N out of the air into the soil but beyond that the only way to add nutrients to your soil is to use fertilizer.

I don't personally like the idea of paying to use nutrients I already own (jumpstart). I will spend my money on nutrients no some bull@hit product that claims the impossible.

[bluefargo]

Darren - Until you identify this miracle product(s) we are all just wasting our time talking about it are't we.

I have seen these things come and go for many years. I am very sceptical.

[bgmb]

Do you, your company or its products have a website we can look at Darren

[bgmb]

Darren,

Is your organization a secret society or a company in the business of selling products?

Just really curious about he nature of your product(s).

[darren442]

If anyone wants to know the name just emeail me at darren.soil@gmail.com and i will give all the details. For 29 years the business made enough money for everyone to make a good living. But the technology used in making the products have changed and larger ewuipment was bought so now we can produce more.
But here it is in a nut shell if you want to save a little money. have healthier soil, healthier plants and take care of hard pan salinity compaction ect and have plants that flower longer produce more pods deal with drought better and excessive water what does it hurt to email me and we can possibly set up a meeting. The meeting will take about a hour and a half. It doesn't hurt to talk and i guarantee you will be more educated after i leave. And if you can have 2-3 more guys there at the table with you the better . They may even thank you for putting more money in there pocket

[stubblejumper]

if it looks like a scam and smells like a scam it probibly is a scam

[jensend]

or it could be a duck!