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  • WiltonRanch
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 4517

    #11
    Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
    Ukraine isn’t and wasn’t innocent, maybe anyone supporting Ukraine should go give them a hand, NATO held onto this proxy war, what’s a flag worth? It’s not worth all the people underneath it!
    Think you’re missing the point here. Russia is empire building while they still have enough able population to do so. Innocent or not Ukraine was invaded by an aggressor nation. No justification for Russia to invade here. Be like Trump invading Canada on justification it’s too woke or some other reason. Much as I’d like to be part of the USA there’s a reason parts of my family left there a 100+ years ago. Same as in Ukraine if folks don’t like it there then maybe look at going to Russia or the US.

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    • WiltonRanch
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 4517

      #12
      Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
      I think Europe has voted. They have decided to buy oil from Russia therefore funding that side and we are funding the other in billions of dollar increments. Maybe I am wrong but we can’t fund this war forever.
      True enough. If Europe is buying Russian oil they are sealing their own fate. However, the rearmament of Europe is unprecedented. With America taking a break from the world stage everyone else including Canada has to go it alone concerning defence and trade.

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      • TSIPP
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 2673

        #13
        Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post

        Think you’re missing the point here. Russia is empire building while they still have enough able population to do so. Innocent or not Ukraine was invaded by an aggressor nation. No justification for Russia to invade here. Be like Trump invading Canada on justification it’s too woke or some other reason. Much as I’d like to be part of the USA there’s a reason parts of my family left there a 100+ years ago. Same as in Ukraine if folks don’t like it there then maybe look at going to Russia or the US.
        I think you’re missing the point here.
        Ukraine and NATO facked around and found out!

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        • WiltonRanch
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 4517

          #14
          Originally posted by TSIPP View Post

          I think you’re missing the point here.
          Ukraine and NATO facked around and found out!
          The hell they did! What did Afghanistan, Poland, Lithuania, Kazakhstan do deserve being invaded and subjected to Soviet and Russian tyranny?

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          • TSIPP
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 2673

            #15
            Flags change, peaceful or not, I’ll bet most of western Canada isn’t flying a maple leaf in ten years, I’m just hoping we aren’t flying the flag of India.

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            • AlbertaFarmer5
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 12548

              #16
              The most depressing thing when thinking about wars throughout history is realizing that most of the combatants gave their lives fighting about which ruler/king/chief/principality/country/oligarchs gets to steal the fruits of their labors. Very few have ever been an existential threat to the poor citizens pressed into service.
              Even if the propagandists have convinced them otherwise.

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              • TSIPP
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 2673

                #17
                If the commanders and kings sent their own families in the front lines first it would be a much more peaceful planet.

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                • sumdumguy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 11990

                  #18
                  Z has declared that he refuses to give up any territory but wants in on the talks. You suppose anything would be negotiated with him there?

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                  • LEP
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 2507

                    #19
                    Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                    Z has declared that he refuses to give up any territory but wants in on the talks. You suppose anything would be negotiated with him there?
                    Trumps meeting with Putin without Ukraine there is like the US and Mexico negotiating a trade deal for Canada.

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                    • Sodbuster
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 1129

                      #20
                      Originally posted by LEP View Post

                      Trumps meeting with Putin without Ukraine there is like the US and Mexico negotiating a trade deal for Canada.
                      Agree, makes no sense for Trump to sit down without having Putin and Zelenskyy at the same table to discuss a deal. All I see is Trump and Putin wanting to share the spoils of war.

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