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[newguy]

Still waiting on a reply on who a 25% import tax will help? Kind of like we will build a wall and make Mexico pay for it.

[ajl]

I'd be very surprised if supply management won't be eliminated this time around, just depends who is going to sign the death warrant of dairy guys, JT or PP.

Why would the elimination of supply management be the death knell for dairy in canada? Milk prices are good in the US at the moment and we have cheaper feed in some areas. They eliminated quotas in the UK and still produce milk there. The same would happen here.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Why would the elimination of supply management be the death knell for dairy in canada? Milk prices are good in the US at the moment and we have cheaper feed in some areas. They eliminated quotas in the UK and still produce milk there. The same would happen here.

It would probably be great long term for Canadian dairy. We could actually compete on the world stage. Expand beyond our miniscule domestic market.

The problem would be if their cost structure/debt is based on an artificially inflated price, when that gets reduced to the world price, that debt load might not be sustainable. That could be a death knell.

[Old Cowzilla]

Cattle market hotter than hell this week my buyer could not get any for me. Guess other buyers didn't get the 25% memo yet my 14.20 canola sale is sadly looking better all the time. Twine is perfectly frozen to bales now......winning !

[bobofthenorth]

Why would the elimination of supply management be the death knell for dairy in canada? Milk prices are good in the US at the moment and we have cheaper feed in some areas. They eliminated quotas in the UK and still produce milk there. The same would happen here.

Exactly. The notion that ALL Canadian dairymen are so clueless as to cause them to go broke if they didn't have the cartel crutch propping them up is just silly. Yes there are nitwits pulling Holstein tits in Canada. There are also highly efficient operators who will continue past the inevitable demise of the cartel.

I just hope that our negotiators are smart enough to not give up the cartel in one or even 5 negotiating sessions. Its an obvious irritant to the Americans so we should drag out its demise as long as possible. If the Americans want us to give it up then make them pay dearly for that. I doubt that Twitchy is smart enough to understand this but her days are clearly numbered.

[blackpowder]

Dairy a difficult one.
Govt would have to compensate for quota value. Pricey. Production areas would contract, herd #s 5% of current. Obviously would have to compete with foreign milk and byproducts. Possible foreign ownership of new milk factories here.
Huge factory dairies beside cheap feed and labor means transport of product the only factor?
Hard to visualize what would be left. Hoping better planning allowed than when they scrapped the board.
I'll drink American milk but not Chinese.
End of the day, the poor don't care who owned the cow, regulate the openness and safety properly.
It's become such an Elephant in Canada I can't see it happening.
Think CWB in SK in the 70s.
Which will of course, eventually ensure it's demise as it won't change.
You can see that happening already.
Quebec always had all the power here so I give it some time yet.

[shtferbrains]

Distribution of the benefit is slightly skewed?
Quebec has 1/3 more than the 4 western provinces.
BC and Alberta have 10% more people.

[wrongway]

the buyout for the quota will be in the hundreds of billions of dollars...unlike the western canada crow payout of a paltry billion and the payout to the middle east when the cwb was mercifully killed

[newguy]

Have never been in favour of the dairy system in Canada.But with the global milk shortage right now our system may finally help Canadians .

[TSIPP]

Only 6.8 billion litres of milk have been dumped in Canada in the last decade, something is wrong with this system.