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AUS vs CAN RS Oil Content: Any comments as to why?

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  • AlbertaFarmer5
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    If all we have to do is slap a label on it backed up by the IGIFS study, then go for it. I have my doubts that it will be that easy.

    I expect a customers will want to see some proof of compliance before they will pay a premium for an identical product.

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  • westernvicki
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    Alberta Farmer, the results of the GIFS study prove that we are the most environmental farmers in the world. We have increasing pressure to reduce our carbon footprint. Could it become like "Angus Beef"? "Made with Western Canadian Environmentally Sourced" Pulses, Oilseed & Grains can have value. Is there a dollar in that now, no. Are their companies that would prefer to source food that has verified labels, yes? Therefore, claiming the brand that we are the world most environmental farmers is positive and
    actually not that difficult to carry!

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  • Blaithin
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    IMO genetics need to be ahead of the game for oil.

    If companies start discounting and paying premiums based on oil, there’s going to be a lot of angry farmers for years until the genetics get there. Especially if there is something in the newer varieties that’s contributing to less oil.

    Most sales to my recollection are for around 41% oil. Most farms are there. If sales change to mainly want 45%, target will be harder to hit. If premiums are paid for over 45, a handful of farms will benefit, but if discounts are applied for under 40, 43, 45, etc. then more are going to be docked. Based on my experience those are going to be the farmers already getting hit with poor yields and damage issues. It’s not a situation that needs to be jumped into and compound issue on issue on issue.

    If end use processors really want higher oil then there’s no reason the seed companies aren’t already trying to stabilize, increase, and figure out consistency on oil production.

    There needs to be research done on what factors farmers can do for oil. We know fertilizer can increase protein in wheat. We know stress can increase protein in wheat. I’ve heard nothing if fertilizer will increase oil, or decrease it. Stress certainly seems to decrease it.

    While the geneticists work on varieties for oil, variables that impact outside of genetics also need sorted out.

    It’s a great, big, knotted ball of twine and the first step to untangling it is not docking the farmer. You aren’t going to get premiums without getting discounts.
    Last edited by Blaithin; Nov 3, 2024, 13:49.

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  • AlbertaFarmer5
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    Originally posted by westernvicki View Post
    And this is why we need to brand our production as the most environmental in the world.
    We have the study from Global Institute for Food Security which placed us best in the world as a brand.

    Very simple. Farmers need get our shit together as an industry.
    You had me on board for your first two posts. Then lost me with the third.
    Producers will end up bearing the costs.

    Very few of the countries who import our products care about any environmental footprint so there won't be any premium.

    We will just add layers upon layers of regulations and red tape and bureaucracy and price ourselves out of most export markets. Probably even price ourselves out of our own domestic markets.

    I would be in favor of the organic model where producers, processors and exporters can voluntarily sign up for the environmentally sustainable program and cater to the niche markets they develop. If the premium is worth the cost, producers will flock to the system.

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  • westernvicki
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    And this is why we need to brand our production as the most environmental in the world.
    We have the study from Global Institute for Food Security which placed us best in the world as a brand.

    Very simple. Farmers need get our .... together as an industry, debate policy and make changes where necessary.

    Time to for earnest debate. Indeed driving genetics to higher oil is like driving genetics to drive higher protein in peas: the money is in the oil, the money is in the protein.

    Now go.
    Last edited by westernvicki; Nov 3, 2024, 18:12.

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  • westernvicki
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    Protectionism is real. It will get worse. This is why we need to have a Western Canadian policy voice and think tank.

    Yesterday.

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  • westernvicki
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    Why do we not pay for higher oil content in Canada.
    If we did genetics would follow.

    We need to be the best in the world at producing commodities to be competitive. We have so many cost disadvantages from freight, to carbon tax, and higher costs of production all over, we cannot be grounded by marketing disadvantages.

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  • GDR
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    From what I've heard the issue with oil from greens is an issue of storage. Goes rancid faster.

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  • Blaithin
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    People are fickle with food they can see.

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  • makar
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    Originally posted by Blaithin View Post

    Doesn’t mean it’s good oil. Maybe they have to do more of whatever to it to get it to be a nice yellow instead of having green chunks ????
    Back when we had a local crusher they held a customer appreciation bbq cooked in green oil. No one knew the difference.

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