Train station.

[westernvicki]

Wow. I was beginning to think I was an uninformed lunatic out in the cold.
HIstory and culture is how we got here. What do you suggest. Does anyone younger feel strongly enough to start a whole new group? Rewrite the ones in place? I talk to no one under 50 who knows anything at all and over 50 who cares anymore.

I agree. But what do you expect? We have had at least a decade of zero strategic analysis.

We pay millions in levy dollars & check-off dollars. The Provincial boards only worry about production. The National ag boards dilute Western interests!

We have had a pitifully little strategic analysis. APAS is the best one at this time.

The proof of the malaise is how our sector responded to BILL C 293! Commodity producers and representatives who think feed demand has nothing to do with commodities! Failing to realize that biodiesel produces meal, Ethanol produces DDGs, and pulse protein by-products are starch and fiber, all used for feed!

The Food Professor finally busted Bill C 293 a 2 year old bill in the Senate ignored by farm groups open: [url]https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/charlebois-is-bill-c-293-canadas-vegan-act[/url]

The proof is a lack of strategic policy thinking. The pudding will be a lack of demand and pricing.

It's not enough to simply react to the challenges we face. We need to be proactive in our approach.

[westernvicki]

So seems graincos have pulled bids on reds, just lovely.

Of course, they have.
Australia wins. Russia and the FSU win. We lose.
It won't be hard to keep score.

And no pea bids are not going up. And no green peas will reopen in India.

[westernvicki]

And yes, some trading house in Turkey or Egypt or UAE or Dubai or Singapore will redirect our product, they will win too.

[furrowtickler]

Are the farm groups out west not controlled basically owned by the federal conservatives and provincial sask party and current alberta gov? If we re to get serious about it theyve really become puppets to political agendas as apposed to our best interest?

I take it your from Ontario or Quebec ?

[wrongway]

jusnit is just trying to change the channel from all his scandals and jagmeet is all to happy to help him by supporting his kallistani terrorist friends and irritating india. and if Polliver is sucked into this sh*tstorm all the better for these libs who will happily burn down canada on their way out

[furrowtickler]

jusnit is just trying to change the channel from all his scandals and jagmeet is all to happy to help him by supporting his kallistani terrorist friends and irritating india. and if Polliver is sucked into this sh*tstorm all the better for these libs who will happily burn down canada on their way out

Exactly..

[shtferbrains]

A little surprised to hear all media outlets reading it off the PMO media release statement saying they had to have the RCMP release innuendos in order to protect the Canadian people.
In this case Canadians are Kahlistani activists who India considers terrorist. A small group of Sikhs.
But no one can give any details or it might influence the court case.
So the appointed RCMP commissioner steps into geopolitical affairs without direction from the politico's initiating it?

And we have problems with misinformation?

[the big wheel]

But how about getting back to Vickis legitimate concern about our trade with these countries? The facts are these countries are doing things inapropriate, trying to kill people who right or wrong are Canadian citizens and in that process anyone innocent can get in trouble also, interfering with election process the general and as it appears nominating a federal leader possibly, buying elected officials to have policy that benefits those countries or I should say criminal orgs in those countries? How do we seperate this corruption from our ability to market our grains? And it appears as though it involves all the political parties at different levels they likely all have been at the minimum been approached.
As Vicki suggested where are our market reps?

[sumdumguy]

Our farm check-offs are just pizz in the wind. These useless turds are no different than our useless politicians. That being said - what can be done? An example : in Alberta we have an example of what defensive effort Danielle is taking up against Trudeau’s assault on Alberta’s economy. She is launching an ad campaign to highlight the danger. Our dysfunctional farm groups can’t even do that. Trudeau’s abuse of power should be blasted across every airwave and farm show but what group will stick its neck out to do anything? Can we light a fire under their asses? Vicki, you are the one and only! You are powerful and articulate.

[westernvicki]

Our farm check-offs are just pizz in the wind. These useless turds are no different than our useless politicians. That being said - what can be done? An example : in Alberta we have an example of what defensive effort Danielle is taking up against Trudeau’s assault on Alberta’s economy. She is launching an ad campaign to highlight the danger. Our dysfunctional farm groups can’t even do that. Trudeau’s abuse of power should be blasted across every airwave and farm show but what group will stick its neck out to do anything? Can we light a fire under their asses? Vicki, you are the one and only! You are powerful and articulate.

Thank you for the vote of confidence, but indeed mostly all this gets me is a side step to the far side of the room at ag meetings from representatives who can usually be found in a huddle all together rather than interacting with farmers.

Time for us to ask: do we have too many ag boards, but not one voice who speaks for agriculture: water, water everywhere but not a drop to drink, type of thing.

Has any Ag association added Bill C 293 to their agendas at local and annual meetings, have they sent a communique in this regard to their memberships asking for their active participation in public discussion and action in an effort to deter
the Senate and NDP MPS from supporting the hideous Bill?

Has Pulse Canada or Provincial pulse boards issued a letter of concern to the representative parties in Ottawa and the Premiers regarding international relationships and trade with China and India. Has any analysis been done on the decreasing trade: the Trajectory of trade with India and China from Canada is both lower

Do they even know the cost and variable rates of grain transportation in western Canada today?

Has strategic analysis been completed on the impact of the capital gains tax on capital investment in Canada? Indeed increasing awareness of all, Leaders, MPS, Provincial Representatives, RM and City Councils and Chambers of Commerce is an important tool of supporting capital investment in Canada.

Do we ever consider our role in promoting the environmental farm production we have in Western Canada and being cheerleaders of our success?

Where's the carbon study?

Because livestock and commodities fail to realize they are interdependent:
Who pushes back on the myth that agenda that livestock is bad for the climate?

Basically
Who is prepared to lobby for farm policy that enables a robust industry for the future.


Alberta is right on to create a silo. Sask has been working in this direction. We need to ask if they will include Agri Trade in the model.

Question: has anyone ever called an elected farm rep?