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Not your average recession . . . .

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  • Taiga
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 1488

    Vehicle dealership inventories high and big discounts. Prices came up too high and too fast.

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    • Herc
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2017
      • 776

      Originally posted by Taiga View Post
      Vehicle dealership inventories high and big discounts. Prices came up too high and too fast.
      Big discounts? Bought my ram in 2017 for close to 35% off. Doubt discounts are anywhere near that. Remember, discounts and high inventories were always the norm, before covid…..

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      • Taiga
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2018
        • 1488

        No haven’t seen anything that big. 20% off and 0% financing is back though.
        Leftover snowmobiles being blown out.

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        • errolanderson
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 3151

          Major meltdown in the auto industry in-progress? If you are in the market for new or used, be patient. This washout may have just begun. Dealerships closing? Used vehicle price collapse? My opinion . . . .

          Smoking gun now pointing toward the U.S. stock market. Flow of money rally into U.S. only lasts until the tap shuts off. Investors remain extremely bullish. Trumpism.

          Europe and Asia already in-disarray. China govt yields at historic lows. Brazil Real collapse. U.S. export problem.

          Realize, weak-kneed commodity-based currencies a concern or blessing? Depends on what side of the fence.

          Aussie dollar slammed. But Loonie is now oversold, USD overbought. Too high dollar impacting the U.S.

          The inflation story is sooo old. What will mainstream media talk about. Price of bananas story? Media Credibility? Deflation doesn’t get-the-ratings . . .

          Don’t run with the herd, there is a jump ahead . . . . My opinion, not shared by the masses.

          errolanderson.substack.com

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          • ColevilleH2S
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1664

            Originally posted by Taiga View Post
            No haven’t seen anything that big. 20% off and 0% financing is back though.
            Leftover snowmobiles being blown out.
            Another one bites the dust.

            Arctic Cat has shut down sled manufacturing and it's parent company is trying to sell the division. There is speculation Polaris is on shaky ground as well.

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            • Taiga
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2018
              • 1488

              Yeah KTM has folded too, they have over a years worth of inventory in storage apparently at the factory, not even counting the inventory at dealers.

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              • wheatking16
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 582

                At this point in time, the charts suggest a world of hurt is on the way.

                IMO

                We moved a long-term investment from equities to bonds.

                ​​​​But I have wrong before.

                Lots.


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                • WiltonRanch
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 4526

                  Atv’s and sleds, especially sleds are the ultimate early warning sign disposable income is drying up Atv dealerships going belly up happens next. Sled dealers also impacted by no snow years. Word on street only sled maker left standing is brp.

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                  • AlbertaFarmer5
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 12592

                    Originally posted by wheatking16 View Post
                    At this point in time, the charts suggest a world of hurt is on the way.

                    IMO

                    We moved a long-term investment from equities to bonds.

                    ​​​​But I have wrong before.

                    Lots.

                    What would a world of hurt mean for Bitcoin? Deflation would not be friendly to Bitcoin. The central bank response to deflation would be.

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                    • wheatking16
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 582

                      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post

                      What would a world of hurt mean for Bitcoin? Deflation would not be friendly to Bitcoin. The central bank response to deflation would be.
                      IMO

                      For what it is worth.

                      Keep in mind it is free.

                      A world of hurt to me means a sell off to raise cash.

                      I anticipate everything gets sold.

                      My intuition tells me Bitcoin is setting up for a 25-30% minimum pullback.

                      The US stock market similar.

                      ​​​​​​I think the catalyst will be massive job losses due to AI with a larger %of the population affected, both entry level and professional jobs.


                      Government debt will increase significantly with UBI. Every country with a government who desires to stay in power and has the ability will participate.

                      But this could be my old pessimistic worldview (which I am trying to shake) speaking.

                      Let's celebrate if I am interpreting thing incorrectly.




                      Last edited by wheatking16; Jan 5, 2025, 17:01.

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