Barley Question/Voter Criteria

[JD4ME]

and Silverback I will be voting , thanks for the advice though, nice to see you are at your usual high level of tolerance for rational discussion today.

[JD4ME]

Thanks Wilagro, and you may not agree with how I'm voting but at least you and I understand what were voting for and I think deep down inside everyone else does too.

[silverback]

Please don't preach to me about tolerance JD!!!

How many times did you, Vader, Agstar and others tell us that if we don't like the board just stop growing wheat!!!!

Well, how does it feel now?

You have no tolerance for my right to do what I want with my own property.

I, and many others have been way, way too tolerant in allowing you and other supporters of the status quo, to survive on the backs of your neighbors.

All you have to do is mark the ballot for what you would like to see in the barley market.

Is that too tough? You seem willing to express yourself on this web site, what is so scary about marking it on a ballot?

[cowman]

Hey wait a minute:
Go up a few posts and see what Chuck Strahl says?
He says basically one way or the other there is going to be a CWB?
The only question is a monopoly or a choice? Those are the only two options? The CWB is NOT going to cease to exist the day after the plebicite?
Now Mr. Ritter might say "The CWB will cease to exist" the day the monopoly ends...but who is he? Is he the government? Is he the Queen?
Strahl says very clearly "THE CWB WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST"? What part of that is so hard to understand? If you choose to sell to them...that is your choice?...Hmmm... shades of the original CWB?

[charliep]

Perhaps in a perverse way, the vote for status quo/CWB as it exists today is really a vote for an open market. The indication is that if farmers had choice, they would go directly to the market/avoid selling through the CWB. This includes single desk supporters.

A vote for choice means you will consider all alternatives for marketing barley (malt and feed) and pick the best one for your business on the day you make that decision. The question then becomes what products and services you would expect from the CWB to get your business/delivery commitment.

No mention is ever made of your customers up the supply and what their preferences are. It may be some customers prefer to work with the CWB in sourcing their needs. Again, a different way of looking at the world.

[cropduster]

I just want to know if JD and Willy are going to have kids,or, is their relationship so `special` that they`ll have to adopt and include a third person in their relationship!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JD4ME]

You're a funny funny man Silverback, you go back through this marketing section and you cut and paste where I've taken a position one way or the other on the CWB. You're so blinded by your feelings on this issue that you attack anyone who would even dare question the process. You think anyone who dares challenge the decision to have three questions is against you.

If I've challenged you in the past it hasn't been about what you have said ,it's been because of how you go about saying it.
I've never said on here whether I want change or staus quo, why? because it's a waste of time to talk reason to either side of the debate on this site. Everyone is ,was and will be entrenched in what they believe. Me I've always believed the CWB is a zero sum entity there are times it works and times it doesn't. Keep it or get rid of it frankly it's really not a big deal I've adapted.

On our operation we've done well under the old system, if things change I believe based on what we've worked towards in our business plan we'll continue to do well,
That silverback is what a business man does, they look at the environment they are in and they adapt to the situation, and make contingencies in case of changes. They don't hate everyone and everything in the system and go out and yell at the wind they deal with it. Understand Silverback that whether the CWB is here or gone the same people who were kicking your ass all the years the board was here will be the same people who are kicking it afterit's gone. Not much will change.
Because the good business people have adapted and will again.
Our operation will get 4 ballots for the vote but there's only 3 of us here is that fair? not really

Is it a perfect thing? no.
Will I vote of course.
Will I vote the same way you do?
Maybe.

But the bottom line to what I posted earlier is still the same all I said is that Strahl is having a 3 choice question designed to reach a desired conclusion, it's the truth deal with it.
Did I ever say I didn't want that conclusion, nope.

[JD4ME]

And cropduster your comment isn't worth even replying to ,grow up.

[Jman]

Parsley: If professors are, as you stated, "ballet instructors and drag queens, or botanists studying June grubs", what does that make organic farmers? Most would assume them to be lazy, pot smoking hippies, that cant afford intensive crop production practices". That they become "organic" not by choice, but as a neccessity (cant afford the inputs). Did you notice that nobody responded to you and t4cwb's most recent new posts, I wonder why that is?

You don't mind if the professors are subsidized via scholarships, bursuries, or contract work, but you cannot seem to stand another farmer giving or getting value.

What are you really saying?

Parsley

[parsley]

Read again Jman.

I did not say professors are ballet instructors or drag queens, or botanists.

I simply commented that Strahl chose a farmer INSTEAD of one of the above.

I also observed that you resented this farmer getting paid for contracted work, while in the same breath,I did not sense you resented the two professors getting paid for contract work. That was the point, right there.

You have certainly articulated your hostility towards the Manitoba farmer,and then, all of a sudden, towards another group of farmers(yeeks, another one a-bubbling?), so the best suggestion I can think of is that you compose a list of all the farmers and farm groups you are so angry with, and send it along to

http://namass.org/

Parsley