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    #41
    Used Silencer on hoppers and got good control but they got to be little guys. Trouble on sandy stuff is there is a new hatch every week and timely rains are needed to win the fight.
    Last edited by Old Cowzilla; Jun 24, 2023, 06:34.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Old Cowzilla View Post
      Sowed peas and barley mix the hoppers weren't eating the peas but were chewing the barley as fast as it was coming up. Sprayed 1 time already wondering if hoppers wait till pods on peas before next attack. Funny can't stop the wind when spraying but try and get a breeze when you drop some hay down !
      Hoppers in Lentils at bloom time is recipe for zero crop. Hoppers are becoming a serious problem in the South. All the kings horses and all the kings men can’t stop the hopping. And it’s still June, what’s July going to be like when the hoppers are 50 times the size?

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        #43
        Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
        Hoppers in Lentils at bloom time is recipe for zero crop. Hoppers are becoming a serious problem in the South. All the kings horses and all the kings men can’t stop the hopping. And it’s still June, what’s July going to be like when the hoppers are 50 times the size?
        And that’s why I didn’t grow them this yr.
        If they don’t get the flowers nipped off they will get the pods …. Then it’s game over.

        Lentils could hit all time highs!

        New I should have grown a bunch. 🤣🤣

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          #44
          Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
          Hoppers in Lentils at bloom time is recipe for zero crop.
          Sum, we need lentil growers to keep the hoppers out of the other crops.

          Isnt it something as soon as the lentils go into blossom, the RM cuts all the ditches and sends the hoppers into every field. I mean they could wait a month.

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            #45
            Originally posted by jdg364 View Post
            What are people using as their go to killer for hoppers. I heard pounce doesn’t work, loraban is a thing of the past and they don’t want you using matador either on cnl/durum. Does cygon work or do you have to use one of these expensive new chemistry’s.
            I was told Coragen, but never had to deal with them till this year.

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              #46
              Have taken a closer look at our crops after the recent rains. And having done some more travels all west of highway 2, the hot and dry definitely did a lot more damage than I expected it to. And my understanding is that West of highway 2 is in much better shape than east was.
              Lots of very spotty emergence. Lots of fields that now have bald or very sparse highland and yellow or completely drowned out low land.

              Some of the cereals look healthy and thick if you look crosswise. But when you look down the rows they are very thinvery thin, with leaves firing off and heading prematurely and very short.
              I am still optimistic on my later seated week. And anything on really good black ground or with a history of heavy manure applications. But earlier seated on the usual clay didn't kill her very much, is burning off its leaves and trying to head out without even filling in the canopy. Some new killers coming. Holding out hope that it will continue to tiller. Anyone have any experience with that? Will a plant with early tillers in flag leaf continue to make new tillers?
              I really don't think we were ever short on moisture either. With no deal and good trash cover, soil was still moist at the surface. Perhaps it was the heat and not the lack of moisture.
              I do have some wheat 20 miles further east where they did miss all of the showers, and it was completely dry on top. Likely couldn't have even germinated a crop in june. That is looking like my worst wheat, on the best soil.
              I would say our own canola still has full potential. I don't think the excess water stuck around long enough to do very much damage to the low spots. Early seeded canola locally looking very good.
              In my travels, canola definitely looks better than the cereal crops. But very uneven. Not clear if the bald spots are still coming in or if they are a loss.

              The question I posted earlier about the Twitter post claiming Alberta would be 60% of normal on cereals is looking accurate.

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                #47
                Originally posted by jdg364 View Post
                What are people using as their go to killer for hoppers. I heard pounce doesn’t work, loraban is a thing of the past and they don’t want you using matador either on cnl/durum. Does cygon work or do you have to use one of these expensive new chemistry’s.
                You can use matador on durum. But Remember it kills Everything hopper enemies , bees etc
                If you have enough crop cover use Coragen- it doesn’t kill on contact- they die after eating vegetation and can last up to 21 days/. Has worked well for us

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by mustardman View Post
                  You can use matador on durum. But Remember it kills Everything hopper enemies , bees etc
                  If you have enough crop cover use Coragen- it doesn’t kill on contact- they die after eating vegetation and can last up to 21 days/. Has worked well for us
                  We have used coragen. It works by locking their jaws
                  . So basically they starve. They must injest it
                  . Spraying the outside of a field should do it. Lasts up to 2 weeks depending on rate

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by mustardman View Post
                    You can use matador on durum. But Remember it kills Everything hopper enemies , bees etc
                    If you have enough crop cover use Coragen- it doesn’t kill on contact- they die after eating vegetation and can last up to 21 days/. Has worked well for us
                    Matador doesn’t kill bees ?
                    Spray it in leaf cutter fields almost every year
                    Just don’t spray when bees foraging which is a good practice anyway

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                      #50
                      Some elevators not buying wheat sprayed with matador

                      Locally Cargill has announced that they will not be buying wheat sprayed with matador or its generics. You will have to sign your life away on the declaration before delivery.

                      So before spraying the hoppers you might want to have a talk with your grain buyer.

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