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  • furrowtickler
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    Sad part is we don’t get paid 1/10 of what the consumer pays at retail . Yet we are the bad guys
    Attack on ag is sickening

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  • furrowtickler
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    Just done hrsw here
    On our mid sized family farm, we just harvested about 6.4 million loaf's of bread on not a huge fertility package
    Most farms around here a lot more
    I guess the world does not need bread 🍞 for their bug paste

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  • furrowtickler
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    Let them eat bugs and forage for their food like the Neanderthals 10,000 years ago

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  • AlbertaFarmer5
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    Good news. The Tyee , that most reputable of all right wing scientific organizations, has assured us that reducing fertilizer emissions by 30% will not reduce our food supply.



    The comments are the best part. Apparently all we need to do is use compost instead of fertilizer. Or else just go organic of course. Oh and crop rotations too bad we never thought of that.
    Someone commenter had the audacity to ask where the compost would come from.

    So now, the same group of rocket surgeons who want us to reduce our livestock and quit eating meat because it's killing the environment and contributing to global warming, now want us to increase our livestock so we can reduce our emissions. Meanwhile in the Netherlands they are mandating massive reductions in livestock because it is causing emissions. I'm having some difficulty following the logic so far.
    Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
    Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Sep 7, 2022, 13:02.

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  • ColevilleH2S
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    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    ...Turns out that no-till does not sequester CO2 the way we thought it did, and seems to be reducing carbon in the subsoil...
    But only for the first 14 years. Then subsoil carbon goes up again. A quote from your link:
    "These differences eventually diminished between the two soil types, but only after a period of 14 years"

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  • AlbertaFarmer5
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    And then, there is this added complication. Turns out that no-till does not sequester CO2 the way we thought it did, and seems to be reducing carbon in the subsoil.
    We can store more carbon in farmland soils if we just leave it untilled. Or…so we thought. An extensive new review has turned this influential idea on its head, suggesting that no-till methods don’t actually store any more carbon in the long term by leaving soil untouched, compared to fields that are regularly churned up. This

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  • WiltonRanch
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    Just cutting my fertilizer reduction strategy right now. It only works if it rains enough. Usually we get enough rain to make a crop. Some years just that or a bit less and anything extra could be detrimental to the water supply unless land is taken out of production for a period of time for a green manure or fallow. Made sense when land was under $100000 a quarter but 4 to 5 times that and economically you’ll eventually go under unless you can derive some more economic benefit like grazing or forage. However, for it to be sustainable long term any of that growth must stay on that land as is or passed through a cows bowels. What government is preaching may work for smaller mixed farms which present economics and government do not seem to actively support. If they were serious about a more sustainable system with lower emissions a massive shift in diet and less reliance on foreign imports, and less exports of food would be in order. Agribusiness would essentially have to contract to 50% or less of what it is now, and government would essentially need to subsidize like before nafta in order to keep people on the land. It’s a no go and we’d end up having to import more from the Americans while our exports would be backfilled by Russia. I swear some days Russia is probably funding this bs like anti pipeline groups.

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  • 6V53
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    K.I.S.S. Get some alfalfa seed and a tandem disc and cut out the middle man.

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