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How we could actually cut fertilizer and not cut production.

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  • furrowtickler
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 21876

    #61

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    • Partners
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 3105

      #62

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      • AlbertaFarmer5
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 12509

        #63
        And then, there is this added complication. Turns out that no-till does not sequester CO2 the way we thought it did, and seems to be reducing carbon in the subsoil.
        We can store more carbon in farmland soils if we just leave it untilled. Or…so we thought. An extensive new review has turned this influential idea on its head, suggesting that no-till methods don’t actually store any more carbon in the long term by leaving soil untouched, compared to fields that are regularly churned up. This

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        • ColevilleH2S
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 1641

          #64
          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
          ...Turns out that no-till does not sequester CO2 the way we thought it did, and seems to be reducing carbon in the subsoil...
          But only for the first 14 years. Then subsoil carbon goes up again. A quote from your link:
          "These differences eventually diminished between the two soil types, but only after a period of 14 years"

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          • AlbertaFarmer5
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 12509

            #65
            Good news. The Tyee , that most reputable of all right wing scientific organizations, has assured us that reducing fertilizer emissions by 30% will not reduce our food supply.

            https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/09/...missions-Cuts/

            The comments are the best part. Apparently all we need to do is use compost instead of fertilizer. Or else just go organic of course. Oh and crop rotations too bad we never thought of that.
            Someone commenter had the audacity to ask where the compost would come from.

            So now, the same group of rocket surgeons who want us to reduce our livestock and quit eating meat because it's killing the environment and contributing to global warming, now want us to increase our livestock so we can reduce our emissions. Meanwhile in the Netherlands they are mandating massive reductions in livestock because it is causing emissions. I'm having some difficulty following the logic so far.
            Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
            Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Sep 7, 2022, 13:02.

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            • furrowtickler
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2004
              • 21876

              #66
              Let them eat bugs and forage for their food like the Neanderthals 10,000 years ago

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              • furrowtickler
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2004
                • 21876

                #67
                Just done hrsw here
                On our mid sized family farm, we just harvested about 6.4 million loaf's of bread on not a huge fertility package
                Most farms around here a lot more
                I guess the world does not need bread 🍞 for their bug paste

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                • furrowtickler
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 21876

                  #68
                  Sad part is we don’t get paid 1/10 of what the consumer pays at retail . Yet we are the bad guys
                  Attack on ag is sickening

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