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  • WiltonRanch
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 4517

    #11
    Originally posted by fjlip View Post
    Hmmmm....2 missiles shot down, where did they fall? Maybe into Odessa/

    Ports are mined? If Russians trying to get into the port, they won't MINE in front of themselves.

    Ukraine MINED the ports to STOP Russians.

    Also we heard Ukraine destroyed their OWN bridges N of Kiev to STOP Russian advance.

    First casualty of WAR is the TRUTH!
    Maybe so but let’s look at Russias past actions and their current intentions.

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    • TOM4CWB
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2000
      • 16511

      #12
      Putin and his war machine is out to destroy Ukrainian Agriculture. Russia does not care how it is done, mine their fields, burn their ripe fields, steal their grain, eventually blow everything in Ukraine to smithereens... Wheat in Ukraine farmers have is bringing less than 1/4 of international price, farms will be bankrupted on top of all their other misery.

      I don't expect Russia to allow more than a small percent of Ukrainian grain to make it to international markets... Putin can/is winning by killing the farm economy... as well as destroying their industrial and institutional infrastructure.

      Surrender or be tortured... and Russia will threaten to nuke any country who engages directly to defend Ukraine.

      Putin will not stop destroying Ukraine...till someone calls his bluff...

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      • helmach
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2018
        • 230

        #13
        Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
        Maybe so but let’s look at Russias past actions and their current intentions.
        Why only look at Russian past actions and intentions? The west also has vast atrocities committed... Slavery? Native Americans? f uck man look up March 16th 1968 the My Lai massacre of women and children ordered by top brass and carried out by OUR soldiers. Look at the vast foreign policy mingling of "our" state departments in the current affairs of the middle east. Look at the current USA backed Saudi carpet bombing of the poor ppl of Yemen. What is the intentions of our western goverment allowing Isreal to now bomb Syria? or the proxy war they are currently waging and using the poor ppl of Ukraine as collateral damage.

        Don't be blind to only one side of your story. Evil has been around since the beginning of time on both sides.

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        • TOM4CWB
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2000
          • 16511

          #14
          Originally posted by helmach View Post
          Why only look at Russia...

          Don't be blind to only one side of your story. Evil has been around since the beginning of time on both sides.
          What is your point?

          Does Putin have a license to destroy Ukraine because of the past 'sins' of the west... are you saying that Putin has justification for destroying Ukraine, and killing thousands upon thousands of people... including his own people?

          What justification and right does Putin have to keep committing these crimes against humanity... irrespective of, whatever past atrosities, committed by whomever; wherever?

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          • TOM4CWB
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2000
            • 16511

            #15
            Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
            What is your point?

            Does Putin have a license to destroy Ukraine because of the past 'sins' of the west... are you saying that Putin has justification for destroying Ukraine, and killing thousands upon thousands of people... including his own people?

            What justification and right does Putin have to keep committing these crimes against humanity... irrespective of, whatever past atrosities, committed by whomever; wherever?

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            • helmach
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2018
              • 230

              #16
              I thought my point was pretty simple and clear Tom. It being don't be blind to only one side of THE evil. it's everywhere including in your own very backyard close to home.

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              • helmach
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2018
                • 230

                #17
                and nukes Tom? come on that's a stretch. Ever heard of Mutual assured destruction... I'm sure Putin doesn't want to facilitate the speed up of his own demise.

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                • TOM4CWB
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 16511

                  #18
                  Originally posted by helmach View Post
                  and nukes Tom? come on that's a stretch. Ever heard of Mutual assured destruction... I'm sure Putin doesn't want to facilitate the speed up of his own demise.
                  You think Putin fears God and eternal judgement?

                  Putin has a curious way of showing this fear, even though his Rev. Krill is responsible to teach Putin this:

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                  • furrowtickler
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 21997

                    #19
                    I you believe MSM, CBC , CNN I am sure you see Santa Clause every December……
                    Good heavens when are people going to wake up

                    I have Ocean front property here in Sask to sell you lol
                    Last edited by furrowtickler; Jul 24, 2022, 07:38.

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                    • foragefarmer
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 3503

                      #20
                      Originally posted by helmach View Post
                      Why only look at Russian past actions and intentions? The west also has vast atrocities committed... Slavery? Native Americans? f uck man look up March 16th 1968 the My Lai massacre of women and children ordered by top brass and carried out by OUR soldiers. Look at the vast foreign policy mingling of "our" state departments in the current affairs of the middle east. Look at the current USA backed Saudi carpet bombing of the poor ppl of Yemen. What is the intentions of our western goverment allowing Isreal to now bomb Syria? or the proxy war they are currently waging and using the poor ppl of Ukraine as collateral damage.

                      Don't be blind to only one side of your story. Evil has been around since the beginning of time on both sides.
                      Who's looking at Russia's past actions when currently Putin's waging a genocide on Ukraine.

                      Your doing a lot of finger pointing at the West to justify Putin's life long dream and goal of eliminating Ukraine from the map since taking power.

                      It's really sad that you fooled yourself into believing the West needed to push Putin into this unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

                      But, you go ahead and side with a dictator while having the freedom to farm in Canada.

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