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  • LEP
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 2561

    Originally posted by Taiga View Post
    2023 DT620 prices out @ $ 1,046,000
    Cash price $995,000

    Or you could wait a couple years and buy it at auction for 60% of that.

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    • Sodbuster
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 1144

      Used to be about 20% to 30% discount for cash, no trade in. We bought a drill just over a year ago and discounts were over 30%. Have things changed that much in the last year or so? I think I liked $12 canola better than $20 canola, we have a huge target 🎯 on our backs now, and not seeing the end of this yet.

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      • errolanderson
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 3162

        Deflation hitting hard . . . . Some analysts suggest 60% of the components of the Producer Price Index (PPI) are now in-deflation. Central bankers lost sheep preparing to hike rates again in the battel against inflation. Then the silence into late winter will be deafening, as the economy rolls over . . . .

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        • Hamloc
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 4002

          Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
          Deflation hitting hard . . . . Some analysts suggest 60% of the components of the Producer Price Index (PPI) are now in-deflation. Central bankers lost sheep preparing to hike rates again in the battel against inflation. Then the silence into late winter will be deafening, as the economy rolls over . . . .
          Errol prices of certain commodities like grain, fertilizer, gasoline have moderated, some more than others. Diesel is still expensive. Equipment still through the roof, as are parts. Have you went shopping for a new vehicle lately? Prices are nuts. Neighbour came for a coffee, he said his natural gas and electricity bill for December was $900. I almost s##t, he lives in a small house with a 600 sq. Ft work shop. Food prices still going up. April 1 carbon tax goes up 30%. Sorry not seeing this deflation!!

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          • furrowtickler
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 22387

            Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
            Errol prices of certain commodities like grain, fertilizer, gasoline have moderated, some more than others. Diesel is still expensive. Equipment still through the roof, as are parts. Have you went shopping for a new vehicle lately? Prices are nuts. Neighbour came for a coffee, he said his natural gas and electricity bill for December was $900. I almost s##t, he lives in a small house with a 600 sq. Ft work shop. Food prices still going up. April 1 carbon tax goes up 30%. Sorry not seeing this deflation!!
            Not in real life day to day living expenses, which is what is killing the the middle and lower class

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            • Landdownunder
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2021
              • 1909

              Hmmm im gonna ponder over that sodbuster. Thought provoking comment.

              " I think I liked $12 canola better than $20 canola"

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              • errolanderson
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 3162

                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                Not in real life day to day living expenses, which is what is killing the the middle and lower class
                Central bank rate hikes are killing the middle class. This is a historic debt crisis . . . . .

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                • biglentil
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 3341

                  Six reasons the CPI will continue to rip. (Inflation is the expansion of money supply currently well into double digits)

                  1. The CCP has abandoned covid zero and China is once again open for business. Things look very much like 2009, one of the greatest rallies in commodities we have seen happened in the 3 years after the 2008 great financial crisis.

                  2. Russia and Iran just announced a partnership to roll out a gold backed currency.

                  3. The Saudis just announced that they will trade oil in currencies outside the USD for the first time in 50 years. The dawn of the petro yuan.

                  4. The Bank of Japan has lost control of their bond market. They BOJ itself had to buy over 50% of their own bonds at the latest auction and yields are creeping up. What we are witnessing is the failure of MMT in progress. The collateral default swaps are many many fold larger than those that brought about the 2008 great financial crisis.

                  5. Then we have the ESG policies and the Green New Deal. Spending of 100's of billions to destroy real productivity.

                  6. WAR the proxy war that is occurring in Ukraine is ramping up. War drives inflation like nothing else, demand rockets higher all while the supply side is damaged.
                  Last edited by biglentil; Jan 19, 2023, 08:09.

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                  • V Belt
                    Member
                    • Feb 2021
                    • 33

                    Originally posted by LEP View Post
                    Or you could wait a couple years and buy it at auction for 60% of that.
                    Talked to Versi dealer yesterday at Ag Days in Brandon. Said 1 mil is full retail. Cash price about $720K.

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                    • ajl
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 3273

                      Originally posted by biglentil View Post
                      Six reasons the CPI will continue to rip. (Inflation is the expansion of money supply currently well into double digits)

                      1. The CCP has abandoned covid zero and China is once again open for business. Things look very much like 2009, one of the greatest rallies in commodities we have seen happened in the 3 years after the 2008 great financial crisis.

                      2. Russia and Iran just announced a partnership to roll out a gold backed currency.

                      3. The Saudis just announced that they will trade oil in currencies outside the USD for the first time in 50 years. The dawn of the petro yuan.

                      4. The Bank of Japan has lost control of their bond market. They BOJ itself had to buy over 50% of their own bonds at the latest auction and yields are creeping up. What we are witnessing is the failure of MMT in progress. The collateral default swaps are many many fold larger than those that brought about the 2008 great financial crisis.

                      5. Then we have the ESG policies and the Green New Deal. Spending of 100's of billions to destroy real productivity.

                      6. WAR the proxy war that is occurring in Ukraine is ramping up. War drives inflation like nothing else, demand rockets higher all while the supply side is damaged.
                      And despite all this we have deflation which means the greater depression is at hand. Don't believe: try selling some grain today. Been shopping for another pickup recently. Dealer lots are full of half tons. Prices are slowly coming down on both new and used.

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