Canada Has Fallen

[tweety]

Actually if it was an extremely deep inquiry it will show that Trudeau stood by and did nothing. It was his job to help coordinate a response. He could very easily dropped the temperature of the protesters.

Sounds like they needed the powers to second a bunch of Tow trucks. That was an absolute necessity ... definitely justifies the strongest laws of the land. Eh, Tweety?

But now that they ripped off the seal, maybe they can use the EMA to investigate the attacks in BC. I wonder if they will look at the foreign influence in past elections??

Na, that will be for future governments.

You fail to acknowledge his incredible ability to slide out of the way. The government in no way directs the police and they are 3 levels removed from Ottawa police. Which is why the inquiry is so important.

If they needed tow trucks, they needed tow trucks. It is all so fu_ck_d up - the whole thing. More importantly they knew he was coming 3 years ago. They all knew this long before Covid. They knew the Alt Right was US funded. They knew Canada Unity was coming to overthrow. They knew the far right religious was coming with them and doing Coutts AB. They knew EVERYTHING. Its why PM said what he said - he was right because he knew exactly who was there. He was pissed because everyone so screwed up.

The inquiry has 360 days.

[WiltonRanch]

I think the senate vote is completely irrelevant. This was about confidence in current government. Would hate to have an election and 3 seats move around.

Michael Chong was on his game in debate. He should be leader.

True enough but with reservation to the fact ndp is in a fight for survival and relevance. If their actions mean crashing their meal ticket would be foolish at this time. Singh knows his days are numbered and he will prop this mess up for his own good with little regard to much else. I stated before it was foolhardy of politicians to put any support behind the protest. I think it was probably implied the conservatives were more sympathetic and supportive of it but that is where it should’ve stopped. Like trying to catch a falling knife or jumping in to save a woman getting the shit beat out of her by her abusive husband. You don’t know where it will go.

[tweety]

Hong is another otoole. Liberal lite.

And you wonder why they aren't on the right side of the house.

[tweety]

Anyway gotta jump on a plane. Off to Ottawa - will be interesting.

[tweety]

True enough but with reservation to the fact ndp is in a fight for survival and relevance. If their actions mean crashing their meal ticket would be foolish at this time. Singh knows his days are numbered and he will prop this mess up for his own good with little regard to much else. I stated before it was foolhardy of politicians to put any support behind the protest. I think it was probably implied the conservatives were more sympathetic and supportive of it but that is where it should’ve stopped. Like trying to catch a falling knife or jumping in to save a woman getting the shit beat out of her by her abusive husband. You don’t know where it will go.

Mr Singh hates racism and everything the convoy stood for (wasn't about mandates). This is personal.

You never heard it from me.

This will all pale when WW3 starts.

[LEP]

You fail to acknowledge his incredible ability to slide out of the way. The government in no way directs the police and they are 3 levels removed from Ottawa police. Which is why the inquiry is so important.

If they needed tow trucks, they needed tow trucks. It is all so fu_ck_d up - the whole thing. More importantly they knew he was coming 3 years ago. They all knew this long before Covid. They knew the Alt Right was US funded. They knew Canada Unity was coming to overthrow. They knew the far right religious was coming with them and doing Coutts AB. They knew EVERYTHING. Its why PM said what he said - he was right because he knew exactly who was there. He was pissed because everyone so screwed up.

The inquiry has 360 days.

Uhm ... I was meaning The Tides Foundation. The government doesn't direct the police but I am pretty sure the Minister of Public Safety has some sway in how it works. The first Ottawa City Police Chief called in the RCMP didn't see them show up. But he was probably going to have them help setup bouncy tents.

Trudeau sat back and said they were fringe, that they held unacceptable views, then mused about putting in place inter-provincial vaccine mandates, which could never be enforced. Instead of having a representative meet with the protesters to discuss the issues.

The US put the vaccine mandate in place 10 days after Canada did at his behest. Why now when they had been hauling for two years unvaccinated? I am not anti-vaxx. I have three shots. But I believe that everyone should have the right to make a choice for them selves. No different than a woman's right to choose.

Every day for the last 18 months we have heard our health system could be overrun admittedly is Sask we were close. But Omicron is not Delta. We have the worst behind us and "enough is enough".

I have been very silent through this whole debate until the EMA was brought into play. It sickens me to see the holier than thou left, line up to call down people that have had their limit of being told by government what to do. I saw counter protesters hold up signs that said "Kill the Unvaxxed". Not a word about that from media or the high and mighty on the left. The arrogance is intolerable.

Covid cases are dropping and mandates should too.

[blackpowder]

To those for whom the sky is falling I would ask "to where will you go"?
Need I remind you that the average net worth on Agriville is likely as high or higher than our current PM?
If your aim is to set roots for your children in a system more aligned with your beliefs then Godspeed.
If it is because a tempest in a teapot has you alarmed then I would ask "to where will you go next time?"
Had my forefathers stayed in the US would I still be just as alarmed?
In Western Canada we live in the top few places in the world.
Changes to how democracy is managed has and will be alarming.
I am dismayed at our current leader's greed for political traction.
Do I envy a few select standards of other systems, yes.
Will the sun rise tomorrow on a good day, absolutely.

[TOM4CWB]

The CPC has 20 MP's that have signed a petition... as required by the Emergency Act [EMA] now in force... so within 5 sitting days go the Parliament... the parliament of Canada must hold full debate and then have another vote of the senate and house just as they did today.

If the parliament vote keeps going to retain the EMA, the MP's keep signing on by 20MP members... back in another 5 sitting days for another vote of parliament. Senate recalls for EMA are even less stringent.

PM Trudeau has really opened a pandoras box now.

[shtferbrains]

You fail to acknowledge his incredible ability to slide out of the way. The government in no way directs the police and they are 3 levels removed from Ottawa police. Which is why the inquiry is so important.

If they needed tow trucks, they needed tow trucks. It is all so fu_ck_d up - the whole thing. More importantly they knew he was coming 3 years ago. They all knew this long before Covid. They knew the Alt Right was US funded. They knew Canada Unity was coming to overthrow. They knew the far right religious was coming with them and doing Coutts AB. They knew EVERYTHING. Its why PM said what he said - he was right because he knew exactly who was there. He was pissed because everyone so screwed up.

The inquiry has 360 days.

So the protesters had all kinds of conspiracy theories that were way out there and ridiculed by legacy media.

But the elected leaders of the two parties that enacted the most powerful removal of any restictions to thier oversight believe the alt right, far right religious and sometimg called Canada Unity were going to destroy our democracy because protesters and Canadians had enough of 2 years of government over reach?

THEY KNEW EVERYTHING?

The f ucking protesters didn't know it. There were no leaders.

Your pushing me to Jazz's solution.
I have to believe your full of shit or we are more screwed than anyone can imagine.

[jazz]

PM Trudeau has really opened a pandoras box now.

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Sorry Tom, thats not happening. The censorship bill will be next and married with the EMA. That will be the end of dissent right there.

Next up will be some draconion measures regarding inter provincial travel, vaxx pass etc. Oh forgot, there will be another gun control bill. Everything on that table at Coutts will be banned.

Then will be the final blow, capping the sands.

Its over. Without Ab working toward separation, all of us are going to be cut off, regulated to the nines and ground into poverty. I imagine that talking separation will be sedition under the new measures as well, thats an easy way to turn the polls around.