Gabe Brown

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So when all the easily mined phosphorous is depleted where is the phosphorous going to come from?

bat shit , its true !!

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Mycorrhizae colonizes in undisturbed wheat roots. Glyphosate is an important part of the system keeping wheat roots intact, not requiring tillage to control weeds, perennial or otherwise.

Sorry to burst your bubble

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969718320345

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bat shit , its true !!

We use something similar to this
https://www.guano.com.au/

[AlbertaFarmer5]

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bat shit , its true !!

It is.

So we use bees to gather nectar from flowers. The supply is so difuse and such small quantities, that humans could never do it efficiently enough to get enough energy to be worth while, but millions of bees doing so is quite efficient.

Bats and seabirds have been accumulating phosphate in guana deposits from ( I assume) the sea animals they eat. Taking it from the environment where it is too difuse for humans to harvest economically, and concentrating it, asking nothing in return.

Could this be the future, encouraging an ecosystem where bats and birds can harvest phosphate and deposit it in the equivalent of hives for us to harvest. Perhaps, their prey or the predators could be tweaked to increase the yield, as we have done with every other domesticated species.

Keeping in mind that phosphorus is the 11th most abundant element on earth. We aren't going to run out, just run out of reserves that are sufficiently dense to be economical.

[makar]

It is.

So we use bees to gather nectar from flowers. The supply is so difuse and such small quantities, that humans could never do it efficiently enough to get enough energy to be worth while, but millions of bees doing so is quite efficient.

Bats and seabirds have been accumulating phosphate in guana deposits from ( I assume) the sea animals they eat. Taking it from the environment where it is too difuse for humans to harvest economically, and concentrating it, asking nothing in return.

Could this be the future, encouraging an ecosystem where bats and birds can harvest phosphate and deposit it in the equivalent of hives for us to harvest. Perhaps, their prey or the predators could be tweaked to increase the yield, as we have done with every other domesticated species.

Keeping in mind that phosphorus is the 11th most abundant element on earth. We aren't going to run out, just run out of reserves that are sufficiently dense to be economical.

Mining bat crap is a old industry, world will starve now. Maybe not Bill gates etal.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Mining bat crap is a old industry, world will starve now. Maybe not Bill gates etal.

The existing deposits that took 100,000's of years to accumulate are already mined out, only took decades.
I'm asking if we could accelerate the process by repurposing bats and birds specifically to harvest phosphate rich creatures for our purpose.

[Braveheart]

Sorry to burst your bubble

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969718320345

My bubble is just fine. Dr, Cyndi Grant did her her doctoral thesis on mycorrhizae and wheat roots at the U of Manitoba. Excellent work.

Our soil is on our field rather than the ditch or fence line. Our tractors don't get houred up. Our fuel bill shrinks.

Thank you glyphosate, you are wonderful. (Currently too expensive tho)

[makar]

Sure our buddy asscan is living in a cave as we speak.

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bat shit , its true !!

Yer basic nutrient transfer to the extreme.

[Blaithin]

Keeping in mind that phosphorus is the 11th most abundant element on earth. We aren't going to run out, just run out of reserves that are sufficiently dense to be economical.

And by sufficiently dense to be economical you mean for the required amount currently used in most mainstream farming practices.