Competing against the government

[Sheepwheat]

why is it that only the landowners have to pay the costs for maintaining wetlands and fencelines? if city people want these areas to be preserved then landowners should be compensated. the US has the CRP program which makes annual payments approx equal to what rent would be on preserved acres. The EU also has such a program. WE can see here that as usual people wnat stuff untill they have to pay for it. Gosh at least have a credit on the real estate taxes! Yes?

Every time a pond is drained, I wonder where the recharge water for rural wells comes from. When no more water is allowed to sit on the landscape and soak in slowly, will the aquifers still be here in the future? Upland areas with wetlands are often water recharge areas for the aquifers.

And that is just one tiny little issue I see will probably happen.

I get what you are saying re the cro etc. But it ain’t gunna happen.

[Sheepwheat]

I dont see any costs to leaving a slough or fenceline in place. There may be a some possible lost income ,but i wonder what the payback period is ,if it ever recovers cost. When you acquired that land The purchase price was reflected in the inconvience of these ,so you have been compensated already and the taxes are also lower.

When prices of grain are high, I think they see the payback is there. I look at the fields covered in heavy machinery and wonder though. What is the rate of return on draining a half acre slough? It’s kind of like the wild land prices that farm revenue can’t pay for, but existing land is subsidizing. What’s the point? A gazziliion dollars worth of machinery to gain a few acres here and there.

Sorry, I forgot, without the treelines and half acres sloughs, the family can be fed more easily.

[Rareearth]

Nope, wont bite.

[Old Cowzilla]

No rec spraying here just for yield and quality control. Don't even spray dandelions on lawn they're gonna love me when I retire and move to town!!!!

[bucket]

When prices of grain are high, I think they see the payback is there. I look at the fields covered in heavy machinery and wonder though. What is the rate of return on draining a half acre slough? It’s kind of like the wild land prices that farm revenue can’t pay for, but existing land is subsidizing. What’s the point? A gazziliion dollars worth of machinery to gain a few acres here and there.

Sorry, I forgot, without the treelines and half acres sloughs, the family can be fed more easily.

A 100 foot bluff of trees has had a trackhoe knock them down, a couple of attempted fires to burn it, then a pulverizer to grind it up, then they learnt a few rocks still exist , so back with the trackhoe and a tow behind rock truck and a wheel loader. all for 8000 square feet of extra land and a low spot that will flood if the rains come back. He will probably tile it next.

[bucket]

From a realtor's listing near Maple creek


Includes - Appliances in Main Home, Fences, Gates, Watering Facilities
 Located Northwest of Maple Creek, SK; 11⁄2 miles off the Trans Canada
 Includes Annual Surface Lease Revenue of Approximately $86,200!


Now he has probably been doing good things for the land up until this latest weather problem, chances are the rancher wasn't getting any money from the federal government’s Natural Heritage Conservation Program

[Rareearth]

Sounds like a opportunity for a young guy 😊

[bucket]

Sounds like a opportunity for a young guy 😊

6700 acres for 8.75 million. A young guy would work a lifetime off farm to have the down payment.

[Rareearth]

2 young guys, break it up?

[bucket]

2 young guys, break it up?

How many cows can be run isn't on the listing. My guess is this is a capital gain play by owners that have been in it a long time. NCC , DU, or investors would be in play here aka government money.

The young guys that get to play on it with rent are just peasants. For life.

Cattle wouldn't pay for it , would it?