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[ALBERTAFARMER4]

How many solar panals must you have to charge your car in 1 hour?

A lot. 250kw max charge rate for DC. Charge rate tapers as the battery fills but you’ll need 75kwh which works out to $20 of electricity. But why do I need to do a full charge in an hour? 95% of charging at home can be from 1kw-10kw. Fast charging is only for road trips.

[furrowtickler]

So in order to run an EV you need to spend an additional $20,000 or do to set up a solar / charging station at home ??

This whole thing is simply a push to grab your energy dollar one way or the other , fossil fuels or electric and has very little to do with the environment at all , never has been . It’s about the flow of money .
All on the premises that your either saving the planet or killing it

[Robertbarlage]

How many solar panals must you have to charge your car in 1 hour?

[ALBERTAFARMER4]

Son is a GM tech, says ANY repairs on an EV must follow STRICT safety protocols, special gloves coveralls. An ISOLATED service bay, numerous DISCHARGE procedures. These batteries can KILL you. That will be CHEAP, lets double the per hour service costs.

Sorry sir, our tech had to put on gloves so the service rate was $285/hour.

[ALBERTAFARMER4]

I have a couple of thoughts. First what do you think the cost of the home batterylarge enough to charge the EV will be? A Tesla power wall 2 stores 13.5 kwh of electricity. What is an average EV, 22 kwh storage and up? The cost of one power wall is $8-10 thousand Canadian, you would need 2. Then how many solar panels at $2 an installed watt, let’s say a 10 kwh system, another $20000. Yup charging the Tesla with solar is cheap. What will the cost be to employers to install solar powered charging stations, enough for all their workers? And who is the net beneficiary? China, 80% of the worlds solar panels are made in China and 75% of them made with coal fired electricity!

Personally I have no issue with EV’s. Personally if I bought one it would be a hybrid simply because of a longer range and 2 options for power. I do have an issue with EV subsidies as well as governments paying for the installation of charging stations. I also think solar power is fine when the sun shines but it is not a dependable 24 hour solution and environmentalists let on like it is, absolute lunacy imo.

2 power walls would be a lot. I guess a lot of it depends on how much you drive per day on average and how often your car is home during sunlight hours. My 3 year average on a model 3 is 178Wh/km with 90% highway driving (the most inefficient type for EV). In the city you can easily get 130-145Wh/km. 100km of highway driving would be 17.8kWh battery power and you would add charging losses (89%charge efficiency) to get a total of 20kWh. A 10KW system would charge 100km of driving in 2 hours @ 100% production or 4 hours at 50% production.

So there are a few ways you could tackle this. You could sell all your day time production back to the grid (lets say 10cents/kWh for easy math). Sell 40kWh to the grid and you could charge 20kWh (generated kWh are paid @ market value, consumed kWh have transmission costs/admin fees/etc) at night for breakeven. Instead of investing in battery you just add more solar.

You could get 1 power wall and split the difference.

You could get 2 power walls so you can charge at night and sell the surplus to the grid.

Depending on location, season, hardware, there are a ton of variables.

[fjlip]

Son is a GM tech, says ANY repairs on an EV must follow STRICT safety protocols, special gloves coveralls. An ISOLATED service bay, numerous DISCHARGE procedures. These batteries can KILL you. That will be CHEAP, lets double the per hour service costs.

[Hamloc]

That's why any place that vehicles are parked for the day will have a solar installation. If you want to charge your EV with solar that was produced during the day you will need a home battery. When you put solar energy directly into an EV it has zero consequence to grid capacity. You are going from panel to battery and excluding the grid completely.

I have a couple of thoughts. First what do you think the cost of the home batterylarge enough to charge the EV will be? A Tesla power wall 2 stores 13.5 kwh of electricity. What is an average EV, 22 kwh storage and up? The cost of one power wall is $8-10 thousand Canadian, you would need 2. Then how many solar panels at $2 an installed watt, let’s say a 10 kwh system, another $20000. Yup charging the Tesla with solar is cheap. What will the cost be to employers to install solar powered charging stations, enough for all their workers? And who is the net beneficiary? China, 80% of the worlds solar panels are made in China and 75% of them made with coal fired electricity!

Personally I have no issue with EV’s. Personally if I bought one it would be a hybrid simply because of a longer range and 2 options for power. I do have an issue with EV subsidies as well as governments paying for the installation of charging stations. I also think solar power is fine when the sun shines but it is not a dependable 24 hour solution and environmentalists let on like it is, absolute lunacy imo.

[ALBERTAFARMER4]

Why are they not built with solar panels on the roof or hood to continually charge??

Not enough area to really justify it on a car. There is a new one coming out called the Aptera that has built in solar charging for 40miles of range per day. The entire vehicle has the aerodynamic drag of a F-150 side mirror.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsYyJJFYRvc

[ALBERTAFARMER4]

Gotcha.

And the nicest part of your tidy scenario is that it displaces all the negatives - the human rights abuses, the dirty, irreversible environmental destruction necessary to create your self-indulgent, dream ride - far from your own pristine back yard.

The next time - and every time after - that you smugly plug your shiny Tesla in for a charge, or when your amazing G-force pins you back in the driver's seat, you remember that you are standing proudly on the backs of these Congolese children who made your dream possible by the sweat on their faces and the blisters on their little hands.
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Yes indeed, you single-handedly saved the world, didn't you.

Cool story bro. Here is a link to the 93 page sustainability report for Tesla in 2020. Skip to page 46.

https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2020-tesla-impact-report.pdf

[burnt]

That's why any place that vehicles are parked for the day will have a solar installation. If you want to charge your EV with solar that was produced during the day you will need a home battery. When you put solar energy directly into an EV it has zero consequence to grid capacity. You are going from panel to battery and excluding the grid completely.

Gotcha.

And the nicest part of your tidy scenario is that it displaces all the negatives - the human rights abuses, the dirty, irreversible environmental destruction necessary to create your self-indulgent, dream ride - far from your own pristine back yard.

The next time - and every time after - that you smugly plug your shiny Tesla in for a charge, or when your amazing G-force pins you back in the driver's seat, you remember that you are standing proudly on the backs of these Congolese children who made your dream possible by the sweat on their faces and the blisters on their little hands.


Yes indeed, you single-handedly saved the world, didn't you.