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  • 6V53
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2018
    • 526

    #11
    Originally posted by Herc View Post
    The roundup needed for that will bankrupt a guy…..
    Seed with diskers or air seeder with shovels no need for the roundup.

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    • jazz
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2018
      • 9308

      #12
      Originally posted by 6V53 View Post
      Seed with diskers or air seeder with shovels no need for the roundup.
      But you need 3 passes of glyphosate in the fallow season to keep that in check. But $30 per acre in 3 passes of burnoff versus $120 acre in fertilizer.

      We have a nice little cover crop experiment coming this fall in our lentils. Second crop coming thick. I am letting it go.

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      • biglentil
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 3259

        #13
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        But you need 3 passes of glyphosate in the fallow season to keep that in check. But $30 per acre in 3 passes of burnoff versus $120 acre in fertilizer.

        We have a nice little cover crop experiment coming this fall in our lentils. Second crop coming thick. I am letting it go.
        Nice nodulation too, but thistles need to get a drink.

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        • furrowtickler
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2004
          • 21856

          #14
          Originally posted by Herc View Post
          The roundup needed for that will bankrupt a guy…..
          Along with fuel and depreciation for equipment.

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          • LEP
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 2467

            #15
            Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
            Along with fuel and depreciation for equipment.
            Yes overhead is paid by fewer acres.

            My neighbor has been a religious 50/50 guy. He now has group 9 and 4 resistant kochia. He’s even spraying liberty atleast one pass. In crop and chemfallow are a mess.

            Tillage will likely be his next option.

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            • helmsdale
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 2127

              #16
              Originally posted by LEP View Post
              Yes overhead is paid by fewer acres.

              My neighbor has been a religious 50/50 guy. He now has group 9 and 4 resistant kochia. He’s even spraying liberty atleast one pass. In crop and chemfallow are a mess.

              Tillage will likely be his next option.
              Only a few 50/50 guys left here. It's getting unmanageable.

              At $6 glypho, 3 to 4 passes with rotated tank mix partners is hitting $40-50/ac. Now if glypho is 10 and even if tank mixes dont increase, you're looking at $50-60.

              Nearly all kochia are group 2, 4, 9 cross resistant here. I'm suspicious they're learning how to evade 14 and 15s as well. It wings them, but they're still making seed. That only lasts so long before they wont even be winged any more.

              Kochia is a phucking disaster here! I probably harvested 160ac of them, and dumped the seeds in a slough.

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              • furrowtickler
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2004
                • 21856

                #17
                Originally posted by helmsdale View Post
                Only a few 50/50 guys left here. It's getting unmanageable.

                At $6 glypho, 3 to 4 passes with rotated tank mix partners is hitting $40-50/ac. Now if glypho is 10 and even if tank mixes dont increase, you're looking at $50-60.

                Nearly all kochia are group 2, 4, 9 cross resistant here. I'm suspicious they're learning how to evade 14 and 15s as well. It wings them, but they're still making seed. That only lasts so long before they wont even be winged any more.

                Kochia is a phucking disaster here! I probably harvested 160ac of them, and dumped the seeds in a slough.
                Is definitely an issue here now as well . Never had to deal with Kochia ever in this area
                It started creeping in the past 2-3 years

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                • Sheepwheat
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 3137

                  #18
                  What’s a kochia?

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                  • Herc
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 772

                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
                    What’s a kochia?
                    If you have to ask, you can’t afford it….

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                    • fjlip
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 9796

                      #20
                      Originally posted by 6V53 View Post
                      Summer fallow is a form of crop insurance that has worked in the past. People might have to start thinking out of the box.
                      Tried that last year, SMF yield less than on stubble. Cancel that idea.

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