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  • flea beetle
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    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    More wingnut conspiracy delusions? Its time for an intervention!

    If wearing a mask when needed and getting a vaccination is so hard for you then being part of a community, family and following a few simple rules must be really difficult!

    Here's a clue. There is just more than you in the world and someone raised you and took care of you. So now its time for you to grow up and take care of other people than yourself.
    Care to tackle dml’s numbers out of New Zealand?

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  • dmlfarmer
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    Originally posted by jazz View Post
    You can make up an old simple analogy you want to justify your views. But it doesn't make it sensible.

    If people had to wear seatbelts on their body 24/7 to be safe from a potential car accident, you can bet they would stop wearing them. Thats a proper analogy. Take the health safety measure of your choice and then apply it to the sanctity of your body and then see if it holds.

    If people are dying in car accidents, why arent annual drivers tests mandatory? The number one cause of car accidents is human error.

    And if smoking causes cancer, why are they still sold?

    If heart disease is the worlds number one killer, why arent statins being mass prescribed like vaxxines?

    Why isnt the food health pyramid getting an overhaul from our medical professionals? Have you been to a grocery store lately?

    Our health system experts seem to be experts in hypocrisy as well.

    And not one of those examples you give are contagious! That is the difference.

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  • jazz
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    You can make up an old simple analogy you want to justify your views. But it doesn't make it sensible.

    If people had to wear seatbelts on their body 24/7 to be safe from a potential car accident, you can bet they would stop wearing them. Thats a proper analogy. Take the health safety measure of your choice and then apply it to the sanctity of your body and then see if it holds.

    If people are dying in car accidents, why arent annual drivers tests mandatory? The number one cause of car accidents is human error.

    And if smoking causes cancer, why are they still sold?

    If heart disease is the worlds number one killer, why arent statins being mass prescribed like vaxxines?

    Why isnt the food health pyramid getting an overhaul from our medical professionals? Have you been to a grocery store lately?

    Our health system experts seem to be experts in hypocrisy as well.

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  • chuckChuck
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    More wingnut conspiracy delusions? Its time for an intervention!

    If wearing a mask when needed and getting a vaccination is so hard for you then being part of a community, family and following a few simple rules must be really difficult!

    Here's a clue. There is just more than you in the world and someone raised you and took care of you. So now its time for you to grow up and take care of other people than yourself.
    Last edited by chuckChuck; Sep 6, 2021, 07:25.

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  • biglentil
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    Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
    That’s not a good flyer.

    If the speed limit worked, why do we need seat belts?

    If seat belts work, why do we need air bags?

    If air bags work, why do we need ambulances?

    If ambulances work, why are people still dying in car accidents?

    Sorry BigLentil, but if you think life is simple enough that one measure can solve any problem, it’s going to be a rough ride. Complexities of Nature make for complex answers.
    Geeze and my antique cars are still allowed on the road without seatbelts or airbags. How am I still alive after all these years?
    Your solution will be to stop vehicles on the road all together. It's all about safety after all you better not leave your house like they are militilary forcing in NSW Australia.
    Last edited by biglentil; Sep 6, 2021, 07:19.

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  • Blaithin
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    Originally posted by biglentil View Post
    Some are just gullible suckers for punishment I guess.
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    That’s not a good flyer.

    If the speed limit worked, why do we need seat belts?

    If seat belts work, why do we need air bags?

    If air bags work, why do we need ambulances?

    If ambulances work, why are people still dying in car accidents?

    Sorry BigLentil, but if you think life is simple enough that one measure can solve any problem, it’s going to be a rough ride. Complexities of Nature make for complex answers.

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  • biglentil
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    [QUOTE=TOM4CWB;508541]
    Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
    If never ending court cases is what it takes to maintain my rights and freedoms, ...

    Just to "confuse the issue with the facts"...

    In Canada we have a publicly funded health care system... different than private system perhaps... but

    Even health care insurance providers can decline coverage for specified reasons...

    The "peace order and good government" clause of the Canadian Constitution can over ride almost anything... the courts keep ruling... in case you missed this, which is why public health legislation over rides almost all other laws in Canada.

    An observation... not saying you must take the vax, just that as the ICU and hospitals fill up... public health officials have little choice but to decrease the health risks and patient load on our health care system. Hence new restrictions to decrease patient load on hospitals...

    Have a safe and healthy harvest!
    Cheers
    Newsflash the unvaxxed also pay for their healthcare it's called taxes. Both my grandfather's also fought in WW2 for FREEDOM, that so many are so willing to give up at the first sign of a flu. Wake up!

    We are 2 months away before the media stops giving numbers out . Why? Simple with numbers trending the way they are we are 2 months away before the majority of hospitalization will be ones that have had the vaccine . Yes the tide is shifting . The ones that want passports are the same ones that pointed out the jewish people to the Nazi’s in the thirties and forties . They think they are right but they are brainwashed into following the weak .


    Get ready for collateral damage to the mandated vaccinations you are going to be shocked when some of the best and brightest Surgeons and health care professionals walk off the job leaving a vacuum. Good for them!
    Last edited by biglentil; Sep 6, 2021, 10:03.

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  • TOM4CWB
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    [QUOTE=flea beetle;508540]If never ending court cases is what it takes to maintain my rights and freedoms, ...

    Just to "confuse the issue with the facts"...

    In Canada we have a publicly funded health care system... different than private system perhaps... but

    Even health care insurance providers can decline coverage for specified reasons...

    The "peace order and good government" clause of the Canadian Constitution can over ride almost anything... the courts keep ruling... in case you missed this, which is why public health legislation over rides almost all other laws in Canada.

    An observation... not saying you must take the vax, just that as the ICU and hospitals fill up... public health officials have little choice but to decrease the health risks and patient load on our health care system. Hence new restrictions to decrease patient load on hospitals...

    Have a safe and healthy harvest!
    Cheers

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  • flea beetle
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    Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
    Actually I don’t know enough about the charter
    To say either way. Some people I know abuse it
    The way I see it the person or group with the best
    lawyer gets the charter to work for them.
    There’s too many Whiney people now days always
    worried About themselves selfish. Me me me.
    And they use rhe charter as an excuse. Yet some
    Truly are wronged and the charter likely legitimately
    Helps them.

    So the football team says you can’t go in their stadium
    Unless vaxed. You go there unvaxed. They want to
    Boot you out. You say you have your right to attend
    The game. They say they have the right to boot you out.
    Whose in the right? Just a small example if everyone
    Has rights all the time we ll be in a deadlock of
    Never ending court cases.
    If never ending court cases is what it takes to maintain my rights and freedoms, then have at it. If you feel it is too risky to be out in public, stay home. You have the vax...you should be protected. It is us unvaxed that should be scared. Yet it is the vaxed that are shaking in their boots.

    Is it not whiney and selfish to coerce others to inject something into their body, that they do not want in the first place, so that you can feel safe?
    Last edited by flea beetle; Sep 6, 2021, 00:41.

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  • flea beetle
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    Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
    If you want to be part of society and we re
    Dealing with a contagious disease that harms
    Others you damm right they have rhe right. And in
    Fact you have obligation to do your part.
    Otherwise stay home.
    The flu is a contagious disease that harms others too...how come we never heard from you all these years?

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