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Originally posted by BreadWinner View PostIt is fortunate that 75% of people got vaccinated, only 14% of new cases are vaccinated people. If we didn’t get the vaccine the case numbers would be huge like 2000 per day instead of 150.
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Case its obvious you have no evidence to back up anything so its a good time to change the subject! LOL
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Guest repliedharvest sure going along good around here
basically just mostly canola left
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Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View PostMy second biggest concern in all of this, is that the next time around, the pandemic will be the big one, and all of the measures taken this time and more will actually be necessary, but due to the Lost trust from the gross mismanagement this time around, no one will take the measures seriously.
Much like how all of the crying wolf about global warming and the sanctity of experts, already led to the situation we are in.
My first biggest concern still being the canceling of any dissenting opinions and the attacks on freedom of speech, resulting from the politicization of science.
Pointing out where opinions are not backed up by science is not attacking freedom of speech.
You didn't even acknowledge David Schindler's work and conclusions on fresh water supplies in Alberta. Why?
Show us the data and conclusions from reliable scientific organizations otherwise you don't have any credibility.
Its pretty clear that Jazz and company are ignoring expert science based evidence and advice on covid and vaccines and making up bullshit arguments that are not based in science or evidence. A5 Are you at all concerned with this obvious politicization of healthcare science?Last edited by chuckChuck; Aug 27, 2021, 07:39.
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Just saw a news report on the Can 99 mask made in Canada. Seems like this would be a better option to the N95.
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Originally posted by Austrian Economics View Post
I got both my shots in the understanding that I could have a normal life back. As far as I am concerned, we had a deal and the province broke it. The trust is gone and the bridge is burned as I now find out that normal existence without masks, fines, passports and lockdowns is nowhere on the horizon. They will never gain my sanction for this abominable state of affairs.
Much like how all of the crying wolf about global warming and the sanctity of experts, already led to the situation we are in.
My first biggest concern still being the canceling of any dissenting opinions and the attacks on freedom of speech, resulting from the politicization of science.
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They need all that gear because are working with infected patients in a closed enviroment. When you are in a more open enviroment with casual contact, masks hand washing helps to stop the virus spread. Not perfect but it helps.
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Originally posted by sumdumguy View PostOur mother died in the Covid ward, though she didn't have Covid. The empty i sh ward was full at Christmas time, the nurse said. When I asked the nurse how many nurses and cleaners ended up with Covid, she saiid NONE. I was surprised and she said, “ these masks work and constant washing of hands. “ So I tend to believe her.
This much gear is, however, wildly impractical for everyday use by the general public.
Absent gearing up in this manner for a trip to the grocery store, the only guaranteed way to avoid Covid is to avoid all contact with anyone.
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Our mother died in the Covid ward, though she didn't have Covid. The empty i sh ward was full at Christmas time, the nurse said. When I asked the nurse how many nurses and cleaners ended up with Covid, she saiid NONE. I was surprised and she said, “ these masks work and constant washing of hands. “ So I tend to believe her.
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Not making has really worked well for some U.S. school districts. They have had to shut down shortly after opening where the mask mandated have stayed open. Of course their for profit medical is working much better.
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Originally posted by agstar77 View PostMost of the present problem lies with group of anti-vaxxers in the Southern health region. They are moving up the case counts and adding to the hospitals. Masking will help head off a resurgence of the delta variant. Live in the real world where we have to adjust to changing conditions.
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We currently have what I call the "one-trick pony" problem. We are told that if we are pre-emptive and institute restrictions now, we can lift them once case numbers fall. But case numbers have never fallen and stayed down. They consistently move up and down like a yo-yo, which is a good indication that the virus is endemic in the population and will never go away.
This strategy invariably leads to the Australian model where lockdowns are instituted with ever increasing frequency and severity as the virus ingrains itself in the populace. This strategy morphs into an unwinnable "zero covid" game until the economy collapses.
The end game for the "one-trick pony" policy is simple: permanent lockdowns. The advocates of this policy should never try to sell it as anything else.
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Originally posted by Austrian Economics View PostWhatever happened to the 98% effective vaccine? If the authorities were honest, they would have attached a list of caveats to that statement, particularly regarding the length of time it remains effective. As we are seeing, this seems to be measured in months, not years. Now we are told that booster shots will be needed, but again, how effective will they be? My guess is months at best.
I was informed by the Manitoba government that if 80% of the eligible population got vaccinated, we could return to a normal life. We met that threshold. There were no caveats attached to that goal at the time either. Now they are reimposing restrictions in pursuit of a new goal (85 to 90%?) that is almost certainly unachievable.
I got both my shots in the understanding that I could have a normal life back. As far as I am concerned, we had a deal and the province broke it. The trust is gone and the bridge is burned as I now find out that normal existence without masks, fines, passports and lockdowns is nowhere on the horizon. They will never gain my sanction for this abominable state of affairs.
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On another issue, if you are fully vaccinated, how are the unvaccinated a threat to you? If the vaccines are effective, then the unvaccinated can only be a threat to themselves and other unvaccinated people, right?
If this is an issue of hospital capacity, then that's not a problem I need to solve. That's a problem with socialized medicine being incapable of responding to surges in demand. I have a right to resume a normal life and businesses have a right to resume earning a living.
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