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  • jazz
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 9308

    #11
    Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
    Charter rights are only good if you don't endanger others. Good luck with that argument. Quarantines are allowed for health emergencies.
    You are going to have to prove I am a danger in the first place. Pretty big legal hurdle I would say. Are you going to test and trace 18M people movements, infection and transmission status? Vaxxed are transmitting the same viral load and variants to each other and unvaccinated as well.

    I would say thats a slam dunk class action charter challenge.

    But it wont even come to that. The pushback will be eventually be in the public unions and private sectors.

    Your commie utopia is postponed.

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    • furrowtickler
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 21864

      #12
      Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
      Last week I posted on CBC news that the vax is failing in Israel. I got banned for three days. Misinformation they said. Numbers from the Israel ministry of health. Today I see there is an article on CBC that touches base on the vax failure in Israel. Anyone else find that interesting?

      Also interesting, is alt leftists on CBC hoping non vaxxed get Covid and die. Comments like that are allowed.
      I will agree on this one sided leftist controlled media censorship.... it’s incredibly disturbing now .
      Misinformation is the truth , or the truth is misinformation?
      Time is showing facts they can no longer hide under misinformation. That in its self should open narrow minds .

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      • dmlfarmer
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 1814

        #13
        Okay, this Fox interview about Pfizer receiving full approval for their vaccine is just too funny not to post.
        First question asked of Admiral Giroir MD, acting commissioner of FDA, was if the vaccine approval was rushed? The second question is why it took so long! I guess if it wasn't rushed in the minds of Fox it then had to have taken too long. Giroir's reaction to second question is revealing. https://twitter.com/i/status/1429823392992145416
        Last edited by dmlfarmer; Aug 23, 2021, 10:32.

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        • agstar77
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2001
          • 6178

          #14
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          You are going to have to prove I am a danger in the first place. Pretty big legal hurdle I would say. Are you going to test and trace 18M people movements, infection and transmission status? Vaxxed are transmitting the same viral load and variants to each other and unvaccinated as well.

          I would say thats a slam dunk class action charter challenge.

          But it wont even come to that. The pushback will be eventually be in the public unions and private sectors.

          Your commie utopia is postponed.
          Considering almost 75 % are fully vaxed you will have a hard case that it is a medical matter not a rights issue. Since no one is forced to be vaxed there is no challenge.

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          • jensend
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2002
            • 1532

            #15
            Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
            Israel now saying vax efficacy has fallen to a whopping 39%.
            Quote from Forbes Magazine to give a more complete picture of Israeli study findings. Delta variant is more infectious but third shot is useful.

            Among people aged 60 and older, the health ministry’s findings showed that the booster dose offered a four-fold increase in protection from infection after 10 days compared to people who have received two doses, Reuters reported.

            The third dose also offered five to six times stronger protection against hospitalization or serious illness after 10 days in the same age group.

            Despite having one of the widest vaccine rollouts in the world, Israel has seen a major resurgence of Covid-19 inside its borders largely fueled by the more infectious delta variant.

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            • agstar77
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2001
              • 6178

              #16
              Then there is Australia with only 20% fully vaxed. They are going into lockdown. Trying to take the isolation route is failing.

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              • furrowtickler
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2004
                • 21864

                #17
                So where will this end as new variants continue?
                4,5,6 shots ?
                Booster shots every 6 months ?
                Just wondering ...

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                • jensend
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1532

                  #18
                  Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                  So where will this end as new variants continue?
                  4,5,6 shots ?
                  Booster shots every 6 months ?
                  Just wondering ...
                  That's the critical question. If more infectious variants keep developing a new vaccine will be needed. It appears the present vaccines are not going to wipe out the virus, even regionally. They can give protection from serious symptoms but have reduced effectiveness in providing immunity. This is far from over. We have to hope the severity of the infections can be tempered but herd immunity is a long way away.

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                  • sumdumguy
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 11973

                    #19
                    Totalitarianism will die on this hill. 🎺🎼🎼🎼

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                    • biglentil
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 3261

                      #20
                      Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
                      Israel now saying vax efficacy has fallen to a whopping 39%.
                      It's worse than that, that's the average, after 6 months it fell to 16%. It's dropping off exponentially and soon to be worse than having no vax at all.

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