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Market talk - will durum hit 25 bucks?

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  • agstar77
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2001
    • 6178

    #21
    Originally posted by zeefarmer View Post
    Saw $18.88 for a 5 CWAD today.
    5 is no better than feed wheat
    So why is feed wheat 10? HRS should be at least 15.

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    • helmsdale
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 2127

      #22
      Originally posted by zeefarmer View Post
      Saw $18.88 for a 5 CWAD today.
      "The solution to pollution is dilution"...

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      • newguy
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 2145

        #23
        You may see more durum acres come from flax wheat or barley acres.Pulses and canola is fairly set for acres on farmers rotation.Durum is usually cheaper to seed than canola but seed may be 25 or 30 and best to seed 100 pounds or better so seeding costs will be up there.Durum is way more forgivable in yield ina dry year though.

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        • zeefarmer
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 284

          #24
          Originally posted by newguy View Post
          You may see more durum acres come from flax wheat or barley acres.Pulses and canola is fairly set for acres on farmers rotation.Durum is usually cheaper to seed than canola but seed may be 25 or 30 and best to seed 100 pounds or better so seeding costs will be up there.Durum is way more forgivable in yield ina dry year though.
          The 2 dry years we've had recently (2018, 2021), our spring wheat has yielded better than our durum.

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          • zeefarmer
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 284

            #25
            Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
            5 is no better than feed wheat
            So why is feed wheat 10? HRS should be at least 15.
            It's still durum?? Downgrading factors this year will be HVK and sprouts. It's not like it's full of fuz

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            • helmsdale
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 2127

              #26
              Originally posted by newguy View Post
              Durum is way more forgivable in yield ina dry year though.
              Yea, that's what the literature says... But in the perpetually dry zone here, I used to regularly outyield durum by upwards of 30% with wheat.

              I just can't afford to chase wheat that lays on the ground because of sawfly around here anymore. It even went after the "sawfly resistant" durum to the tune of about 20% this year. Neighbor has wheat that 75+% of it's laying flat on its ass!

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              • GALAXIE500
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2003
                • 669

                #27
                Originally posted by bigzee View Post
                So what you are saying is you are not happy with $20 durum??? As farmers is it really ever high enough??
                No it isn't ever high enough on a year like this year. With the shitty crop we had down here in the SW , as far as I am concerned the grain companies are going to have to get just a little bit hungrier before I contract any grain. Heard rumors that one of the elevators in the area might have a new name on it in the near future. Not sure why . Could be just coffee shop BS , but with the last few years down here it makes me wonder.

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                • Kraut
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 104

                  #28
                  Originally posted by GALAXIE500 View Post
                  No it isn't ever high enough on a year like this year. With the shitty crop we had down here in the SW , as far as I am concerned the grain companies are going to have to get just a little bit hungrier before I contract any grain. Heard rumors that one of the elevators in the area might have a new name on it in the near future. Not sure why . Could be just coffee shop BS , but with the last few years down here it makes me wonder.
                  SWT's 25 year agreement with Cargill expires and is up for renewal in Jan 2022

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                  • newguy
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 2145

                    #29
                    Originally posted by helmsdale View Post
                    Yea, that's what the literature says... But in the perpetually dry zone here, I used to regularly outyield durum by upwards of 30% with wheat.

                    I just can't afford to chase wheat that lays on the ground because of sawfly around here anymore. It even went after the "sawfly resistant" durum to the tune of about 20% this year. Neighbor has wheat that 75+% of it's laying flat on its ass!
                    in a global scope of things durum may be considered a specialty crop.Orice spikes are much more common than wheat.New durum varieties like Alloy have closed the yield gap difference between wheat and durum.

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                    • helmsdale
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 2127

                      #30
                      Originally posted by newguy View Post
                      in a global scope of things durum may be considered a specialty crop.Orice spikes are much more common than wheat.New durum varieties like Alloy have closed the yield gap difference between wheat and durum.
                      Had to look up Alloy in the seed guide. If I grew it here it'd also be flat on the ground... not solid stem.

                      Have I told you guys I hate sawfly?

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