Fertilizer for spring 2022

[Old Cowzilla]

Winfall in grain prices being used to buy out contracts by many key players I have talked too in our area. Wonder if ( FERT-GRAIN COS ) are just feeling the market to see if there will be anything left. My son and I know one thing we will be spending more on soil testing this fall. If you have less than 1/2 a crop does that mean you used about half the fert ?

[shtferbrains]

Be sure you get 24 inch samples for nitrogen.
Especialy after significant rain.
Don't let anybody tell you that you can't consider deeper nitrogen but you do need enough to support the plant while it is rooting.
If you have been bone dry you can also expect a flush of nutrients from all the microflora that died off in those conditions.

[JankoFarms]

Are there any Canadian companies that are importing non-North American phos?

Definitely some. Not sure how to add the link.
https://www.producer.com/news/phosphate-finds-new-way-to-reach-the-prairies/

[jazz]

Whats the point of soil testing? If you found you were in an excess nutrient situation would you really back off next yr? That just creates another problem down the road.

[jamesb]

Whats the point of soil testing? If you found you were in an excess nutrient situation would you really back off next yr? That just creates another problem down the road.

For close to 10 years or so we have soil tested every year and zone vari rate the nitrogen mostly, phos sometimes. I am amazed as to the differences between fields year to year. A little better crop in fields that had better rain really shows in the soil test. Its neat to follow the changes in available nutrients from year to year. On our farm we are using the same yield goals for each crop but will vary the fertilizer a lot from field to field. We don't drop rates below a certain point but between yield maps, satellite imagery and soil testing it is pretty easy to get a feel for where things are going from year to year. Across the farm in a normal year we are not spending less on fertilizer but are putting less in some places and more in others. I think we could write our prescriptions ourselves pretty easy but we would have to invest in a pretty good setup for zone sampling. At normally 70 probes per field these days, the old hand probe we use to pull from maybe 15 spots wouldn't work. Bottom line for me is that I have a lot of confidence that I know what is in the soil.

[biglentil]

Whats the point of soil testing? If you found you were in an excess nutrient situation would you really back off next yr? That just creates another problem down the road.

I somewhat agree never affects the fertilizer decision much at seeding time. However it's nice to see the deficiencies and excesses, and how the soil tests react to things like broadband elemental Sulphur. I use a cordless drill, a stainless soup bowl with a hole drilled in the middle and an 18" long 1 inch auger bit. If the ground isn't too rocky it works well. I touch up the cutting edge with a cordless angle grinder and flap disc every now and again. I often do it after freeze up.

[helmsdale]

Whats the point of soil testing? If you found you were in an excess nutrient situation would you really back off next yr? That just creates another problem down the road.

Short answer "yes".

I have been applying phos at consumption + for a few years now... If they're going to hose the shit out of me next year, I might take a serious look at products like "jumpstart". Do they even make that product anymore?

As far as the N component is concerned, If there is ample N there from last year (laid down as 100% ESN at seeding) I'll be certainly dialing back on the N laydown. You can't bank that stuff nearly as effectively as you can P or even S(if applied in elemental form).

It may very well unnerve alot of guys that either mid-rowed or side banded significant amounts of Urea, to find out that even though there is a garbage crop, the N that they put down is all gone. Not saying that it will have definitely gassed off, but if it sat in hot dry soil for most of the summer, and crops weren't able to use it, I'd certainly test to see if it's actually still there or not.

[Taiga]

Regarding fert, I am going to wait until spring to buy.
If Northern Nutrients imports as advertised that will surely make a difference.
High US dollar now, spring who knows where it will be.

[V Belt]

Depends on the mood of farmers after this yr. Are guys gung ho to go for it again, or are some horns going to be pulled in. All major crops are hovering in the $20+ range and likely to carry into 2022.

Thats probably too much money to not roll the dice again.

Bought fertilizer today.
46-0-0 $665.00
MES15 $965.00
11-52-0 $985.00
0-0-60 $640.00

[Partners]

Bought fertilizer today.
46-0-0 $665.00
MES15 $965.00
11-52-0 $985.00
0-0-60 $640.00

Cheapest we have heard..
Where is that at?