Cattle guys

[bucket]

Email just came through a minute ago from industry rep. No AgriRecovery details until September.

Won't be much of herd left , will there? Sales are fully booked...doubt guys are changing their minds .

If they remember the little support during BSE , they probably are not holding their breath.

Pretty sad for the cattle guys. Hard work in every cow sold.

[TSIPP]

I’m amazed how much ditch hay is still in the ditches, it’s usually good hay but very hard on equipment, anyway I cut 6 1/2 miles of ditches and got 4 bales but the RM mower took 5 miles of my swaths, some guys are just dickheads.

I left the ditches in great shape, the mower guy had no reason to mow over my swaths.
We aren’t really bad for moisture but things aren’t great.

If the government wants to help out feeding the cows I’ll take it, I didn’t take any covid cash but some drought cash I think is in order.

[shtferbrains]

Worst thing for a cattle operation is getting caught short of quality feed resulting in thin open cows.
Means you fed that cow and have no calf and a discounted cull.
Early sale is the best sale.
Overstocking sneaks up on you but the problem last years after the cows are gone because the pastures are abused and feedyards are empty.

[15444]

Won't be much of herd left , will there? Sales are fully booked...doubt guys are changing their minds .

If they remember the little support during BSE , they probably are not holding their breath.

Pretty sad for the cattle guys. Hard work in every cow sold.

It's a guess whether 40 or 50% of the herd is gone here already. Get help soon, might have 40% left by Jan 1. If not, I would guess 20%.

My scenario I am working with right now is worst case: No rain, no funding, snow hits Thanksgiving and stays. Just like 1961.

[foragefarmer]

We never chopped a single acre this year while combining our forages, sold it to the cattle guys for the same price as last year and the past years.

They all appreciated it.

We realize cow-calf guys are in a very tough position and now is not the time to gouge these guys.

Are you grain guys getting request from the ranchers for straw?

[makar]

It's a guess whether 40 or 50% of the herd is gone here already. Get help soon, might have 40% left by Jan 1. If not, I would guess 20%.

My scenario I am working with right now is worst case: No rain, no funding, snow hits Thanksgiving and stays. Just like 1961.

Have a cousin born in 1961 september 23, that day finished straight cutting wheat, dad said he was walking before the combine rolled again.

[Old Cowzilla]

Don't they use 3-5 year averages to determine livestock numbers for most of these gov programs ? Should I book my space in front of the Post Office now to get a good spot or just keep scrounging for feed ?

[sumdumguy]

For BSE ( $30/ cow) breeding herd was used for count. It was assumed that each cow had 1 calf at side. Same criteria for elk, deer, other.

[TSIPP]

It doesn’t matter how many cows I had 5 or 3 years ago, it dose mater how many cows I needed to pasture this summer and fall and feed this winter.

[Sheepwheat]

What are the checks and balances? How do they end up getting your female numbers? Trust?