CBC even getting tired of this govt

[WiltonRanch]

Lots of accusations here about the lack of support from Canadian government for vaccines based on the CBC interview. However, did you know Canada provided:
- $40 million for the Canadian COVID-19 Genomics Network (CanCOGeN), led by Genome Canada, to coordinate a COVID-19 viral and host genome sequencing effort across Canada...The results of this work will be available to researchers globally to support additional research,]including Canadian vaccine development efforts.
-$23 million for the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization-International Vaccine Centre (VIDO-InterVac) to accelerate development of a vaccine against COVID-19. This funding will support pre-clinical testing and clinical trials of a potential COVID-19 vaccine, essential steps to ensuring that vaccines are effective and safe for human use.
-$29 million for the National Research Council of Canada to begin the second phase of critical upgrades to its Human Health The****utics facility in Montréal. Building on ongoing work to ready the facility for the production of vaccines for clinical trials, this funding will support operations to maintain the facility, as well as provide infrastructure to prepare vials for individual doses as soon as a vaccine becomes available.
-$600 million, through the Strategic Innovation Fund, over two years to support COVID-19 vaccine and therapy clinical trials led by the private sector, and Canadian biomanufacturing opportunities.
-$10 million for a Canadian data monitoring initiative so we can coordinate and share pandemic-related data across the country to enhance Canada’s response to COVID-19.
-$10.3 million over two years, and $5 million ongoing, to support the Canadian Immunization Research Network in conducting vaccine-related research and clinical trials, and to enhance Canada’s capacity to monitor vaccine safety and effectiveness.
-$114.9 million through the Canadian Institutes of Health Research for research projects that will accelerate the development, testing, and implementation of medical and social countermeasures to mitigate the rapid spread of COVID-19, as well as its social and health impacts.
Separately, the Government of Canada is providing over $675,000 through the Stem Cell Network
-to support two new research projects and one clinical trial. The clinical trial will evaluate the safety of a potential cell therapy to reduce the impacts and severity of acute respiratory distress associated with COVID-19, and the two projects will generate critical information about how cells in the airway and brain are affected by the virus.

Do you realizee Canada has signed agreements with the following companies to secure access to their COVID-19 vaccine candidates if they are approved:
-Medicago, which will supply up to 76 million doses of its virus-like particle vaccine candidate
-AstraZeneca, which will supply up to 20 million doses of its viral vector vaccine candidate AZD1222
-Sanofi and GlaxoSmithKline, which will supply up to 72 million doses of their protein subunit vaccine candidate
-Johnson & Johnson, which will supply up to 38 million doses of its viral vector vaccine candidate Ad26.COV2.S
-Novavax, which will supply up to 76 million doses of its protein subunit vaccine candidate NVX-CoV2373
Pfizer, which will supply a minimum of 20 million doses of its messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine candidate, BNT162. The government is in the final stages of negotiation with the company to include options for obtaining additional doses.
Moderna, which will supply up to 56 million doses of its mRNA vaccine candidate mRNA-1273

It is also interesting to note Pfizer, the first vaccine approved globally did not accept any taxpayer money for research and development of the vaccine from any government in the world and was not a part of the US warp speed.

It is also interesting to note Providence The****utics did receive $8.2 million from Canada for development of their vaccine. This vaccine is based on mRNA technology the same as the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, companies which were already working on mRNA techonolgy for the flu vaccines. Also,Providence The****utics is headquartered in Toronto, not western Canada at time of the research and has only moved west to scale up production.

And there at least two other Canadian that received grants for development of a Covid vaccine so to insinuate Canada has done nothing is misleading.

So my question for those feel Canada has not done enough, how much more taxpayer money should Canada allocated for research of vaccines? How many more companies should Canada have supported, and at what level of support for research? (I am sure there would not be a university or lab that would not have applied for funding if there were no financial limits) How many more doses of vaccine should Canada have booked seeing as Canada already has agreements to buy about 350 million doses if all vaccines are proven effective? And since the purchase agreements for proven vaccines already promise all Canadians who want a vaccine will get one by fall, do you feel Canada should put more money toward a vaccine that will not even be in production until 2022?

It’s all fine and dandy as long as Phizer and Moderna can cover their commitments but when you have the EU and USA saying NFW it’s staying here until we get covered. Years ago Mulroney sold out our govt owned vaccine manufacturer and it high tailed out of here. So we’re stuck for the time being. I honestly think this country’s success going forward relies on a robust R&D sector, and manufacturing of these advances. Petroleum products, food, pharmaceuticals, high end electronics etc. This situation we have now illustrates a failure in globalization and its regression. It’s all good as everyone agrees to play the game until someone takes their mitt home.

[Guest]

Lots of accusations here about the lack of support from Canadian government for vaccines based on the CBC interview. However, did you know Canada provided:
- $40 million for the Canadian COVID-19 Genomics Network (CanCOGeN), led by Genome Canada, to coordinate a COVID-19 viral and host genome sequencing effort across Canada...The results of this work will be available to researchers globally to support additional research,]including Canadian vaccine development efforts.
-$23 million for the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization-International Vaccine Centre (VIDO-InterVac) to accelerate development of a vaccine against COVID-19. This funding will support pre-clinical testing and clinical trials of a potential COVID-19 vaccine, essential steps to ensuring that vaccines are effective and safe for human use.
-$29 million for the National Research Council of Canada to begin the second phase of critical upgrades to its Human Health The****utics facility in Montréal. Building on ongoing work to ready the facility for the production of vaccines for clinical trials, this funding will support operations to maintain the facility, as well as provide infrastructure to prepare vials for individual doses as soon as a vaccine becomes available.
-$600 million, through the Strategic Innovation Fund, over two years to support COVID-19 vaccine and therapy clinical trials led by the private sector, and Canadian biomanufacturing opportunities.
-$10 million for a Canadian data monitoring initiative so we can coordinate and share pandemic-related data across the country to enhance Canada’s response to COVID-19.
-$10.3 million over two years, and $5 million ongoing, to support the Canadian Immunization Research Network in conducting vaccine-related research and clinical trials, and to enhance Canada’s capacity to monitor vaccine safety and effectiveness.
-$114.9 million through the Canadian Institutes of Health Research for research projects that will accelerate the development, testing, and implementation of medical and social countermeasures to mitigate the rapid spread of COVID-19, as well as its social and health impacts.
Separately, the Government of Canada is providing over $675,000 through the Stem Cell Network
-to support two new research projects and one clinical trial. The clinical trial will evaluate the safety of a potential cell therapy to reduce the impacts and severity of acute respiratory distress associated with COVID-19, and the two projects will generate critical information about how cells in the airway and brain are affected by the virus.

Do you realizee Canada has signed agreements with the following companies to secure access to their COVID-19 vaccine candidates if they are approved:
-Medicago, which will supply up to 76 million doses of its virus-like particle vaccine candidate
-AstraZeneca, which will supply up to 20 million doses of its viral vector vaccine candidate AZD1222
-Sanofi and GlaxoSmithKline, which will supply up to 72 million doses of their protein subunit vaccine candidate
-Johnson & Johnson, which will supply up to 38 million doses of its viral vector vaccine candidate Ad26.COV2.S
-Novavax, which will supply up to 76 million doses of its protein subunit vaccine candidate NVX-CoV2373
Pfizer, which will supply a minimum of 20 million doses of its messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine candidate, BNT162. The government is in the final stages of negotiation with the company to include options for obtaining additional doses.
Moderna, which will supply up to 56 million doses of its mRNA vaccine candidate mRNA-1273

It is also interesting to note Pfizer, the first vaccine approved globally did not accept any taxpayer money for research and development of the vaccine from any government in the world and was not a part of the US warp speed.

It is also interesting to note Providence The****utics did receive $8.2 million from Canada for development of their vaccine. This vaccine is based on mRNA technology the same as the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, companies which were already working on mRNA techonolgy for the flu vaccines. Also,Providence The****utics is headquartered in Toronto, not western Canada at time of the research and has only moved west to scale up production.

And there at least two other Canadian that received grants for development of a Covid vaccine so to insinuate Canada has done nothing is misleading.

So my question for those feel Canada has not done enough, how much more taxpayer money should Canada allocated for research of vaccines? How many more companies should Canada have supported, and at what level of support for research? (I am sure there would not be a university or lab that would not have applied for funding if there were no financial limits) How many more doses of vaccine should Canada have booked seeing as Canada already has agreements to buy about 350 million doses if all vaccines are proven effective? And since the purchase agreements for proven vaccines already promise all Canadians who want a vaccine will get one by fall, do you feel Canada should put more money toward a vaccine that will not even be in production until 2022?

Well this is from the state broadcaster ?
You will have to take it up with carol
Just nice to see hush money is spent and maybe this cluster**** can end
I think this is it, unless liberals make another “hush” payment

[dmlfarmer]

Well this is from the state broadcaster ?
You will have to take it up with carol
Just nice to see hush money is spent and maybe this cluster**** can end
I think this is it, unless liberals make another “hush” payment

So what if it is from the CBC. It is an interview of a CEO who is unhappy with only receiving 8.2 million and that his vaccine will not be ready until 2022. Hindsight is easy. I am asking you Case, what youwould have done done differently back in March when funds were distributed and why seeing as it is you posting this and encouraging everyone else to complain. How about answering my questions as to how much more should have been invested, how many more r and d firms supported, and what should be done now for Providence?

[Guest]

Well you need to add up how much Canadian taxpayers gave non Canadian companies compared to Canadian
Why in hell wouldn’t you want a made in Canada solution
It’s thinking like yours that has allowed China to take over most manufacturing
Your boy will wished he had kept his mouth shut when ripping on Ontario and Alberta and other provinces after New Years about giving vaccines to slow the way he did

[jazz]

Could we have not diverted some of the billions we sent to 3rd world nations for abortions to our own vaccine efforts? U of S was one of the first who said they had a handle on a potential vaccine but they got totally ignored as the billions of tax payer aid flowed to big pharma which doesnt even have manufacturing in this country and who now put us on the backlist because of our socialized health care.

Our potential vaccine candidates were probably deactivated viruses like was done in the past so that didnt fit the agenda. Need to get patented mRNA vaccine out, nothing else. No other treatment, no recommendations to prop up your health in the meantime, all other drugs sidelined and blocked.

Sounds just like climate change.

Still waiting for any announcement on beefing up our health care system.

dml is providing cover for ineptness and down right evil from this govt.

[Guest]

Could we have not diverted some of the billions we sent to 3rd world nations for abortions to our own vaccine efforts? U of S was one of the first who said they had a handle on a potential vaccine but they got totally ignored as the billions of tax payer aid flowed to big pharma which doesnt even have manufacturing in this country and who now put us on the backlist because of our socialized health care.

Still waiting for any announcement on beefing up our health care system.

dml is providing cover for ineptness and down right evil from this govt.

And seems to have a direct feed from ottawa

[shtferbrains]

8.2 million?

How much did he give MSM?

Wasn't it ++$100 million?

Gotta have priorities.

No question where his are.
.

[dmlfarmer]

8.2 million?

How much did he give MSM?

Wasn't it ++$100 million?

Gotta have priorities.

No question where his are.
.

The $8.2 million was just to the one company. Total commitments made just for vaccine research and development was close to $1 billion. And that does not include the agreed upon price for 350 million doses of the 8 vaccines that Canada ordered if the vaccines were proven effective. So I ask again if 1 billion was not enough, how much more should Canada have spent on vaccine development? And what criteria should they have used to divide up those funds? Pfizer and Moderna were both already working on mRNA vaccinies for the flu so does anyone disagree with ordering from these two companies given their ongoing reasearch? Or should we have bet the farm on companies like Providence or the U of S instead just because they were Canadian. Both would have had to build manufacturing facilites if the vaccine was successful since there are none of scale in Canada anyway. Oh, and btw, Medigo is Canadian, it received funding, and Canada did order 76 million doses from it, if its vaccine proves successful.

[beaverdam]

So what if it is from the CBC. It is an interview of a CEO who is unhappy with only receiving 8.2 million and that his vaccine will not be ready until 2022. Hindsight is easy.

Are you kidding,,, this Blackfaced fool has been giving 10s of millions, 100s of millions of taxpayer money away to foreign countries every damn month !

This thumb sucking, trust fund imbecile, has no clue, and the media are slowly pulling the curtain back,,, not because Western Canada is going to get hurt again,,, but because this time it's in their own backyard.

It's when there're problems in Western Canada, the Media can easily turn and look away. But this time, now it's going to be their(the Media) older family members that are going to die, it's their kids out of school, it's their travel and vacations that being restricted.

And now the Media can no longer place the blame at feet of the Premiers, when the Premiers aren't getting the vaccine due to the incompetence of the Federal gov't.

[shtferbrains]

So if we have 300 million doses on order is that an order or is it just a maybe like the Pfizer product?

I assume if he ordered 300 million units he must have planned on paying for it.

How do you ration that out?

What do you think the participation rate is going to be?

Maybe he went for the volume discount?

Maybe he doesn't know Canada's population?