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  • Oliver88
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 4688

    #31
    Originally posted by bucket View Post
    I too like my electric chainsaw for opening ice for the animals...much quieter ...and no issues with gas line deterioration ....
    Electric chainsaw in Saskatchewan = coal powered.

    A cobalt mine and petroleum required to manufacture batteries and plastic case as well.

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    • helmsdale
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 2132

      #32
      I'm not so sure heavy oil gets less valuable compared to light crude in a more electrified future.

      Light crude provides higher cuts of gasoline, diesel, and aviation fuel than heavy. If we electrify a significant amount of that demand, then light crude loses it's natural advantage. Heavy creates a larger cut of diesel and heavier like asphalt, lubricants and petrochemical feedstock. In a world where gasoline demand declines, heavy oil will yield a greater % of refined product that will still be in demand.

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      • bucket
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 17044

        #33
        Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
        Electric chainsaw in Saskatchewan = coal powered.

        A cobalt mine and petroleum required to manufacture batteries and plastic case as well.
        Dont clutter my convenience with facts...lmao...

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        • Oliver88
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 4688

          #34
          Originally posted by bucket View Post
          Dont clutter my convenience with facts...lmao...
          What brand did you buy Milwaukee or DeWalt? Price?
          One of these would actually be handy for carrying in tractor to cut up trees that fall onto edge of field.

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          • rumrocks
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2018
            • 1180

            #35
            [QUOTE=chuckChuck

            Most investors are asking, are the oil sands going to be competitive in a carbon constrained world?[/QUOTE]

            Most investors are asking, are the oil sands going to be competitive in a starving world?

            I think after day three, the first question becomes less important than the second.

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            • Guest

              #36
              Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
              What brand did you buy Milwaukee or DeWalt? Price?
              One of these would actually be handy for carrying in tractor to cut up trees that fall onto edge of field.
              De Walt 12” works well

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              • burnt
                Banned
                • Sep 2009
                • 3918

                #37
                Originally posted by rumrocks View Post
                Most investors are asking, are the oil sands going to be competitive in a starving world?

                I think after day three, the first question becomes less important than the second.
                And on Day 7, when the elites have the world population whittled down to a very small number which they consider to be sustainable, the oil sands will no longer be needed. Conventional reserves will last half a billion people for a very long time, in their paradise.

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                • WiltonRanch
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 4531

                  #38
                  The oil sands get a bad wrap because of the images of open pit mines and dead birds in tailings ponds. Hypocritical you may say considering the considering the components needed for green energy require the same eyesore. Besides, if any of these self proclaimed experts would go up to Fort Mac area you would see a lot of new projects are thermal using desalinated brine for steam and even promising experimental methods with electrics which require no water. Heavy oil has a lot more useful fractions than green light oil.

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                  • helmsdale
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 2132

                    #39
                    Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                    The oil sands get a bad wrap because of the images of open pit mines and dead birds in tailings ponds. Hypocritical you may say considering the considering the components needed for green energy require the same eyesore. Besides, if any of these self proclaimed experts would go up to Fort Mac area you would see a lot of new projects are thermal using desalinated brine for steam and even promising experimental methods with electrics which require no water.
                    Used to pull out of Conacher Great Divide south of McMurray. The entire facility on the west side of 63 was hardly any bigger than my farmyard. Entire facility was SAGD, with rows upon rows of wellheads on concrete pads spidering out from the facility using horizontal bores to cover a massive area underneath all the swamp spruce.

                    Impressive facility pushing some 5-6000 cubes (~35,000bbl) of dilbit a day running at about 50% capacity. All hauled out by truck.

                    No open pit mines, no tailings ponds... just swamp spruce and swamp creatures running here and there largely unhindered.

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                    • blackjack
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 798

                      #40
                      Jason Kenney on Fox News today....you guys that are good at putting up videos I would appreciate it....worth the watch...

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