Canadian grain act ...review

[farming101]

Have it earn it's budget directly from the industry on fee for service.

I think service fees are how the CGC got to have 130 million laying around. They say they are working on it

[blackpowder]

I think service fees are how the CGC got to have 130 million laying around. They say they are working on it

Yup, we'll see that money again.
Charging the rate for stuff they no longer do.

Value for the dollar on necessary services. Published. Paid by the grain buyer.

What do you do with a building that's so old it's foundation is rotten and hasn't had renos in fifty years? Dig a pit beside it.

[bucket]

Yup, we'll see that money again.
Charging the rate for stuff they no longer do.

Value for the dollar on necessary services. Published. Paid by the grain buyer.

What do you do with a building that's so old it's foundation is rotten and hasn't had renos in fifty years? Dig a pit beside it.

Let it collapse inside itself....the pit for it to fall into is already there.

[bucket]

There is alot wrong with the CGC . While they claim on radio yesterday to providing information to farmers over the last 100 years ...it seems the information is neither timely or easily accessible.

In the 1970s it might be reasonable to wait for the Western Producer to report the information but in todays world there is no reason to be months behind and secretive about grain movement and accurate data that should be at farmers fingertips...

Its not the Chuck Penner's and the Marlene Boersch paying for the CGC ...its farmers....and I really dont like the fact i have to hear it from them first at a cropshere presentation...with their deer in the headlights presentation...

[wmoebis]

What do farmers want? Do they want the elevators to set the rules and run the whole thing their way? Just close the CGC office.

[bucket]

What do farmers want? Do they want the elevators to set the rules and run the whole thing their way? Just close the CGC office.

I would like it if I call the CGC instead of them saying " sell it subject to CGC grading" they get in their vehicles and drive out to see WTF the complaint is about...


And if you call and ask why Moose Jaw Viterra doesnt have a scale after 100 years of operation....they go out and issue a notice...

Otherwise they may as well let the grain industry regulate themselves....FFS.

Regulations not enforced is inexcusable...

[wmoebis]

I would like it if I call the CGC instead of them saying " sell it subject to CGC grading" they get in their vehicles and drive out to see WTF the complaint is about...


And if you call and ask why Moose Jaw Viterra doesnt have a scale after 100 years of operation....they go out and issue a notice...

Otherwise they may as well let the grain industry regulate themselves....FFS.

Regulations not enforced is inexcusable...

Your singing to the choir!

But lets have some constructive discussion how to change it. The minister of AG is giving us opportunity to voice our opinion lets do that. I don't think throwing the baby out with the bath water again is the right answer. There was some changes made 4 or 5 years ago that cost farmers over 100 million dollars and luckily the change of gov't caught it. Lets not let that kind of mismanagement happen again because as proven nobody pays for screw up except farmers.

[bucket]

Your singing to the choir!

But lets have some constructive discussion how to change it. The minister of AG is giving us opportunity to voice our opinion lets do that. I don't think throwing the baby out with the bath water again is the right answer. There was some changes made 4 or 5 years ago that cost farmers over 100 million dollars and luckily the change of gov't caught it. Lets not let that kind of mismanagement happen again because as proven nobody pays for screw up except farmers.

Yes I know but try explaining that to a politician that says..." cant get involved in private business " and then explain the fact that is what the CGC is supposed to be doing.....

Its a bit of a run around...

[wmoebis]

Yes I know but try explaining that to a politician that says..." cant get involved in private business " and then explain the fact that is what the CGC is supposed to be doing.....

Its a bit of a run around...

Believe me I know and understand. Part of the problem is lack of knowledge of rights and responsibilities of each part of the industry. How many people from farmers through to elevators to end users have ever even looked at the rule book (grain act) The CGC has all power to control the industry but nobody uses it. How do we change that? Writing a new ACT is note going to change it.

[blackpowder]

All good points.
We seem to have a legacy of mistrust and antagonism in the industry between producers, handlers, and regulators.
As with the board, a scorched earth restart might be the way to rid ourselves of that legacy.
The free market works if we let it. Collusion indictments and settlements indicate this. We can do this.