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    #11
    Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
    Charging stations using hydrogen are probably most likely. Hydrogen can be produced cleanly from natural gas.
    Or, if you were aware of the second law of thermodynamics, you would skip all of the intermediate steps, And just use the natural gas directly.

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      #12
      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
      Or, if you were aware of the second law of thermodynamics, you would skip all of the intermediate steps, And just use the natural gas directly.
      Just read the CBC article Jazz posted and yes indeed Justin Trudeau is going to raise the carbon tax $170 a tonne by 2030. That translates to just over $8.50 a gigajoule of natural gas. Does this make natural gas cost prohibitive?!?!

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        #13
        Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
        Just read the CBC article Jazz posted and yes indeed Justin Trudeau is going to raise the carbon tax $170 a tonne by 2030. That translates to just over $8.50 a gigajoule of natural gas. Does this make natural gas cost prohibitive?!?!
        With no viable alternatives, it won't.

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          #14
          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
          With no viable alternatives, it won't.
          The solar panels are all covered with ice and hoar frost the past 3 days. I dont see anybdy bothering to sc**** them off. Seems like crawling on your slippery roof to clean panels might just shorten your life faster than covid. You will be only driving your tesla or toyota about 100 days of the yr.

          But thats probably what the great reset wants anyway. Total control over all aspects of your life. They decide if you drive today or not, or if you heat your home or not.

          California has all the sunshine in the world and they cant even keep the lights on even with EVs with about a 0.05% market share.

          This is all clown world garbage.

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            #15
            If oil is going to be worthless in a generation then we better pump like hell now no????

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              #16
              Might as well kill Canada’s oil industry,

              It’s in a desolate corner of Saudi Arabia… 50 miles from the nearest town… surrounded by sand… tormented by dust storms… baked by some of the hottest temperatures on the planet…

              It just opened for business.

              The Jazan project is a project to build the world’s largest gas-fired power plant next to a mega oil refinery beside a monster petrochemical plant… all nestled up against an export terminal for super tankers.

              When fully operational, this plant will process about 6% of Saudi Arabia’s crude oil production.

              (It will turn Saudi Arabia’s heavy crude oil into environmentally friendly ultra-low sulfur diesel fuels, jet fuels, etc., which it will export.)


              the Al-Zour refinery in Kuwait. Like Jazan, it's also a power plant, refinery, and port rolled into one… except this one’s even bigger than the Jazan project… by about 50%.

              It’s going to be one of the largest refineries in the world when it’s complete, which should be in 2024.

              And they aren’t just building refineries in the Middle East. China is getting into the refinery game in a big way, too…

              China currently has at least four new mega projects under construction and many existing projects are being expanded.

              According to World Oil Magazine, in 2021, China will overtake the USA as the world's largest refiner of crude oil.

              Finally, India, the world’s third largest importer of crude oil, is also ramping up refinery capacity.

              India is hoping to increase the size of its refining industry by 77% by 2030. And it just announced a big project… a giant refinery and petrochemical project in the state of Maharashtra.

              At an estimated cost of $60 billion, this Saudi-owned project is going to be the world’s largest and most expensive refinery when it’s completed in six years…

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                #17
                Originally posted by Rareearth View Post
                Might as well kill Canada’s oil industry,

                It’s in a desolate corner of Saudi Arabia… 50 miles from the nearest town… surrounded by sand… tormented by dust storms… baked by some of the hottest temperatures on the planet…

                It just opened for business.

                The Jazan project is a project to build the world’s largest gas-fired power plant next to a mega oil refinery beside a monster petrochemical plant… all nestled up against an export terminal for super tankers.

                When fully operational, this plant will process about 6% of Saudi Arabia’s crude oil production.

                (It will turn Saudi Arabia’s heavy crude oil into environmentally friendly ultra-low sulfur diesel fuels, jet fuels, etc., which it will export.)


                the Al-Zour refinery in Kuwait. Like Jazan, it's also a power plant, refinery, and port rolled into one… except this one’s even bigger than the Jazan project… by about 50%.

                It’s going to be one of the largest refineries in the world when it’s complete, which should be in 2024.

                And they aren’t just building refineries in the Middle East. China is getting into the refinery game in a big way, too…

                China currently has at least four new mega projects under construction and many existing projects are being expanded.

                According to World Oil Magazine, in 2021, China will overtake the USA as the world's largest refiner of crude oil.

                Finally, India, the world’s third largest importer of crude oil, is also ramping up refinery capacity.

                India is hoping to increase the size of its refining industry by 77% by 2030. And it just announced a big project… a giant refinery and petrochemical project in the state of Maharashtra.

                At an estimated cost of $60 billion, this Saudi-owned project is going to be the world’s largest and most expensive refinery when it’s completed in six years…

                Yep gonna be great buying diesel and gas from Saudia Arabia and China.

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                  #18
                  I find this EV design intriguing. Ultra light weight, ultra aerodynamic, 1000 mile range, up to 40 miles additional range per day by sun alone, will charge overnight on a standard 120v plug, under $30k.


                  Last edited by biglentil; Dec 12, 2020, 01:26.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by pgluca View Post
                    Chuckchuck
                    I live in southern Alberta next to a huge wind farm that is constantly increasing in size and we have a number of solar sites in southern Alberta and are building some huge ones. Shows what you know.......
                    And they were working overtime today. I checked a few times. Wind power was under 100 MW when I checked, that is around 5% of capacity.
                    Solar peaked out at 4 MW out of supposedly 100 MW of capacity.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by biglentil View Post
                      I find this EV design intriguing. Ultra light weight, ultra aerodynamic, 1000 mile range, up to 40 miles additional range per day by sun alone, will charge overnight on a standard 120v plug, under $30k.


                      Looks like a "fair weather" car(?)!!!
                      Do they build a family sedan model yet?

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