NFU and commodify marketing

[furrowtickler]

I was glad to see the board gone, made no sense to me but I've lost a shit load of money this year contracting. Between the price increase and the the compulsory buyout of unfulfilled contracts((multiple hail storms).
I'm pretty pissed at this contracting system right now, weeks behind on deliveries with no recourse.
Some one please draft a generic farmer friendly contract that these POS companies have to agree to before they get our commodity.

An act of god clause would be good to have for sure .

[SASKFARMER]

Lost yes we all have them.

Some times you win some times you lose.

But at least it’s not a 1.99 initial and wait for years to get paid.

[Guest]

Lost or just could have made more? The contract made sense at the time I signed it. Life is all about averages, the wife says when I cry about past decisions....she is right.

Yep
Thats how i look at it

[farmaholic]

I can make my own mistakes. I do leave money on the table.....all in hindsight!

$1.50/bushel difference between my first two loads of canola sold and my last two.
None of which "needed" to be sold.

Two dollars a bushel difference between a load of flax sold and what I could get for the rest.

What was the old saying about being in the top percentile of the price range? What percent was that?

Consistantly hitting the high is pure luck.

The way I used to sell was the "All or Nothing" method..... nothing like being really wrong on everything!

[tweety]

The government can't afford to start up another CWB, too expensive. Nothing to worry about.

[mustardman]

I know the Grain Companies LOVE this Post CWB world . Last couple years they’re Pocketing $1.50 a bushel on our grain- according to Mercantile Consulting(Marlene Borsch)

[farming101]

Mercantile Consulting work is flawed

[GOODRUM]

I agree that the monopoly was terrible, initial payments were an insult and that's possibly why we accept what's going on now, so happy to receive a few more crumbs and not even noticing where the rest of the cake is going.
As the Grain companies route trains to locations that will boost their margins my local deliveries are delayed and delivery months are ignored as to their convenience while my interest costs go up the grain companies shares go up, thanks to my acceptance to patiently wait.
The choice to contract is mine yes, accept all the fine print as is stated or don't even get a chance to deliver.
I really don't think we gained much from our victory of "marketing freedom"

[chuckChuck]

So this comment made by a former director of the CWB. And you wonder why the CSB could not adapt or change. Can you imagine comparing the old CWB and growing and selling all crops to supply management as a reason why we should implement a New CWB ? Comparing marketing boards that restrict all imports and only sells domestically. So chuck wants to restrict the amount of crops we grow to equal only domestic usage? When we export what 90% of what we grow? So Chuck you want to have a new CWB that’s I’ll only allow you to grow 10% of what you used to grow. You all can truly see how small minded people like Chuck truly are. That post says it all.

I said no such thing. You are making up a bogus straw man argument. Everybody knows that supply management for an export dominated industry can't work.

I only pointed out that many farmers and Conservatives accept compulsory domestic supply management marketing boards for poultry and dairy products with hardly a complaint. These boards require a very large amount of government intervention in the form of quotas and import tariffs to work.

Its very hard for farmers and their political allies who didn't support the CWB because it took away marketing freedom, to explain how they can then support compulsory supply managed marketing boards for poultry and dairy.

That's why you resorted to lame straw man arguments. And I am not a former CWB director. If you think I am, then probably you are on the board of Viterra. LOL

[jamesb]

I said no such thing. You are making up a bogus straw man argument.

I only pointed out that many farmers and Conservatives accept compulsory supply management marketing boards for poultry and dairy products with hardly a complaint. These boards require a very large amount of government intervention in the form of quotas and import tariffs to work.

Its very hard for farmers and their political allies who didn't support the CWB because it took away marketing freedom, to explain how they can then support compulsory supply managed marketing boards for poultry and dairy.

That's why you resorted to lame straw man arguments. And I am not a former CWB director. If you think I am, then probably you are on the board of Viterra. LOL

IMO its only a matter of time before the supply management system moves toward change. Most of the world has ditched it and its going to take along time to get out of the quota value minefield that would end the industry overnight if not a little thought doesn't go into it. I think most supply management guys thinking long term understand they are on soft ground and change will happen. It interesting now with the Covid factor. There just may be a renaissance for a lot of regional produced products and the value adding that comes with more local processing and consumption. Try getting a beef processed locally these days, most plants are months and months out. Even with the food security that we enjoy here the interest to buy more local is building. In the importing countries food security becomes a big deal and now is the time to push for open markets. China and India have a love for getting involved in the market through tariffs and this will never stop without a rethink towards WTO and other trade agreements. With a pretty general world wide drought going on it is amazing how fast numbers changed. Its glaring too that few "expert's" saw this coming and were pushing sales at lower prices.