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  • Austrian Economics
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2020
    • 365

    #31
    Originally posted by ajl View Post
    The real cause of the great depression is not even talked about today. I believe it was central bank money printing goosing the late stages of the business cycle in the later part of the twenties. False economic signals were then provided causing people to buy assets especially stocks with more debt. Does that ever sound familiar. How on earth are economies that have been living on life support for more than a decade now going to provide growth to service this new debt? Have been taking profits from the vaccine hype lately myself.
    The Great Depression arose as a result of the crippling debt overhang from World War One. Germany and Russia were bankrupt and economically ruined. Britain and France struggled throughout the 20s to reckon with their debts by conspiring with the U.S. Federal Reserve to artificially suppress interest rates. The collapse in interest rates, however, created an artificial economic boom which could not be sustained. Contrary to popular belief, the Depression did not actually end until 1947. It was in that year that interest rates began to rise as the rate of return of the marginal business finally got above the rate of interest and an economic recovery could begin.

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    • errolanderson
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 3157

      #32
      Originally posted by Austrian Economics View Post
      The Great Depression arose as a result of the crippling debt overhang from World War One. Germany and Russia were bankrupt and economically ruined. Britain and France struggled throughout the 20s to reckon with their debts by conspiring with the U.S. Federal Reserve to artificially suppress interest rates. The collapse in interest rates, however, created an artificial economic boom which could not be sustained. Contrary to popular belief, the Depression did not actually end until 1947. It was in that year that interest rates began to rise as the rate of return of the marginal business finally got above the rate of interest and an economic recovery could begin.
      And the back-slapping of central bankers that they are the ‘good ol boys’ can stop anytime now.

      Central bankers and failing old school Keynes economics (at the end of a business cycle) are largely the problem creating massive deficit spending that creates no economy and a whole lot of longterm pain. This will drag global standard-of-livings into the gutter through the 2020s IMO).

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      • jazz
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2018
        • 9308

        #33
        That BMO guy disturbs me. How will Canada go on a bull run with 12% UE and set to rise, 2nd lockdown, all levels of govt budgets destroyed and our biggest export (oil) in the dumps.

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        • bucket
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 17045

          #34
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          That BMO guy disturbs me. How will Canada go on a bull run with 12% UE and set to rise, 2nd lockdown, all levels of govt budgets destroyed and our biggest export (oil) in the dumps.
          I think agriculture will pull us through. ....look at what Russia has done ....from customer to competitor in my lifetime....

          Gotta tell you. ...Putin has vision...


          Canada's leaders ....not so much....

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          • jazz
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2018
            • 9308

            #35
            This was posted up on twitter today. If this is true and something similar applies in canada, then we are truly fd.

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            • macdon02
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 1858

              #36


              Buy low, sell high

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              • biglentil
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 3320

                #37
                Usd about to lose its 9x handle. Ugly for those that thought dollars are a safe haven.

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                • farmaholic
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 17487

                  #38
                  The people who understand the value of money the most are those without any!

                  Although, I'm not saying those with it shouldn't worry about it's value or making it work as hard for them as possible.
                  Last edited by farmaholic; Dec 2, 2020, 12:11.

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                  • jazz
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2018
                    • 9308

                    #39
                    Originally posted by biglentil View Post
                    Usd about to lose its 9x handle. Ugly for those that thought dollars are a safe haven.
                    Relative safe haven lentil. If the USD falters so will a lot of other currencies. All that matters is the spread.

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                    • AlbertaFarmer5
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 12607

                      #40
                      It would be interesting to see that USD chart overlaid with A chart showing the probability of a Biden win. Looks like a very good inverse relationship there. Read what you want into that observation.

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