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  • dmlfarmer
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1814

    Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
    I really do think if the Repubs had replaced Trump, they would\could have won this election.
    I agree farm. However, I also think that a different vice president pick by Biden would have seen a much bigger democrat win over Trump and Republicans and even won the Senate for the democrats.

    The reasons for this election outcome will be argued for decades and there will be lots of what if questions.

    But I firmly believe there is one elephant in the room which played a bigger role in the Trump era that is completely ignored. Hillary did not lose the election because of the emails, she lost it because of a vagina. And a primary reason Trump/Republicans did as well of they did in this election was because Harris is a woman. The male dominant patriarchal society in the US simply cannot bear the though of a woman president and the risk of Biden not fulfilling the full term and Harris becoming the president scared a lot of voters. Trump himself said "...no a socialist, especially a woman socialist..." A number of "Christian" right leaders have publicly denounced a women president on social media and to congregations.

    There is still a glass ceiling in US right wing politics. Until this election women have held a very small percentage of GOP house and senate seats. When it comes to the presidency there has never been a women VP or president, and many voters hope to never see the day that there is. Sex has played a major role in this and the 2016 election but there are few willing to stand up and admit it.

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    • farmaholic
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 17488

      In this day and age?
      Obama made it over the racist hurdle.
      Surely a woman can clear the sexist hurdle?
      .....in this day and age.

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      • Sodbuster
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2017
        • 1138

        There is still a lot of rednecks in America yet that would not agree with a woman President, also agree that if Trump had not been on the Republican card the Democrats would not have won the election.

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        • Guest

          can be the only explanation of biden over tulsi?

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          • farmaholic
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 17488

            Britain, Germany and even Canada are or were led by women.

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            • Blaithin
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2016
              • 2521

              Originally posted by wiseguy
              canada has the lovely justine !
              That’s sexist...

              Maybe helping prove the point of a woman for Potus.

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              • dmlfarmer
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 1814

                Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                Britain, Germany and even Canada are or were led by women.
                True, but much different societies than US when it comes to women and issues, especially rural south US.

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                • farmaholic
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 17488

                  Originally posted by wiseguy
                  canada has the lovely justine !
                  Don't forget Kim Campbell.....I did! Lol

                  But you picked up what I was laying down...

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                  • Sodbuster
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1138

                    Kim Campbell wasn’t elected PM, not sure she counts.

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                    • burnt
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3918

                      Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                      I agree farm. However, I also think that a different vice president pick by Biden would have seen a much bigger democrat win over Trump and Republicans and even won the Senate for the democrats.

                      The reasons for this election outcome will be argued for decades and there will be lots of what if questions.

                      But I firmly believe there is one elephant in the room which played a bigger role in the Trump era that is completely ignored. Hillary did not lose the election because of the emails, she lost it because of a vagina. And a primary reason Trump/Republicans did as well of they did in this election was because Harris is a woman. The male dominant patriarchal society in the US simply cannot bear the though of a woman president and the risk of Biden not fulfilling the full term and Harris becoming the president scared a lot of voters. Trump himself said "...no a socialist, especially a woman socialist..." A number of "Christian" right leaders have publicly denounced a women president on social media and to congregations.

                      There is still a glass ceiling in US right wing politics. Until this election women have held a very small percentage of GOP house and senate seats. When it comes to the presidency there has never been a women VP or president, and many voters hope to never see the day that there is. Sex has played a major role in this and the 2016 election but there are few willing to stand up and admit it.
                      Your Hilary comment seems to be unsupported by reality and lacking consistent evidence.

                      Because it appears that what you claimed as Hilary's obstacle was Kamala's best asset in her pursuit of position and power:

                      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/01/27/willie-brown-kamala-harris-san-francisco-chronicle-letter/2695143002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/01/27/willie-brown-kamala-harris-san-francisco-chronicle-letter/2695143002/

                      Not surprisingly, your own pervasive bigotry is such an impediment to seeing truth.

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