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    Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
    I really do think if the Repubs had replaced Trump, they would\could have won this election.
    I agree farm. However, I also think that a different vice president pick by Biden would have seen a much bigger democrat win over Trump and Republicans and even won the Senate for the democrats.

    The reasons for this election outcome will be argued for decades and there will be lots of what if questions.

    But I firmly believe there is one elephant in the room which played a bigger role in the Trump era that is completely ignored. Hillary did not lose the election because of the emails, she lost it because of a vagina. And a primary reason Trump/Republicans did as well of they did in this election was because Harris is a woman. The male dominant patriarchal society in the US simply cannot bear the though of a woman president and the risk of Biden not fulfilling the full term and Harris becoming the president scared a lot of voters. Trump himself said "...no a socialist, especially a woman socialist..." A number of "Christian" right leaders have publicly denounced a women president on social media and to congregations.

    There is still a glass ceiling in US right wing politics. Until this election women have held a very small percentage of GOP house and senate seats. When it comes to the presidency there has never been a women VP or president, and many voters hope to never see the day that there is. Sex has played a major role in this and the 2016 election but there are few willing to stand up and admit it.

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      In this day and age?
      Obama made it over the racist hurdle.
      Surely a woman can clear the sexist hurdle?
      .....in this day and age.

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        There is still a lot of rednecks in America yet that would not agree with a woman President, also agree that if Trump had not been on the Republican card the Democrats would not have won the election.

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          can be the only explanation of biden over tulsi?

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            Britain, Germany and even Canada are or were led by women.

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              Originally posted by wiseguy
              canada has the lovely justine !
              That’s sexist...

              Maybe helping prove the point of a woman for Potus.

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                Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                Britain, Germany and even Canada are or were led by women.
                True, but much different societies than US when it comes to women and issues, especially rural south US.

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                  Originally posted by wiseguy
                  canada has the lovely justine !
                  Don't forget Kim Campbell.....I did! Lol

                  But you picked up what I was laying down...

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                    Kim Campbell wasn’t elected PM, not sure she counts.

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                      Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                      I agree farm. However, I also think that a different vice president pick by Biden would have seen a much bigger democrat win over Trump and Republicans and even won the Senate for the democrats.

                      The reasons for this election outcome will be argued for decades and there will be lots of what if questions.

                      But I firmly believe there is one elephant in the room which played a bigger role in the Trump era that is completely ignored. Hillary did not lose the election because of the emails, she lost it because of a vagina. And a primary reason Trump/Republicans did as well of they did in this election was because Harris is a woman. The male dominant patriarchal society in the US simply cannot bear the though of a woman president and the risk of Biden not fulfilling the full term and Harris becoming the president scared a lot of voters. Trump himself said "...no a socialist, especially a woman socialist..." A number of "Christian" right leaders have publicly denounced a women president on social media and to congregations.

                      There is still a glass ceiling in US right wing politics. Until this election women have held a very small percentage of GOP house and senate seats. When it comes to the presidency there has never been a women VP or president, and many voters hope to never see the day that there is. Sex has played a major role in this and the 2016 election but there are few willing to stand up and admit it.
                      Your Hilary comment seems to be unsupported by reality and lacking consistent evidence.

                      Because it appears that what you claimed as Hilary's obstacle was Kamala's best asset in her pursuit of position and power:

                      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/01/27/willie-brown-kamala-harris-san-francisco-chronicle-letter/2695143002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/01/27/willie-brown-kamala-harris-san-francisco-chronicle-letter/2695143002/

                      Not surprisingly, your own pervasive bigotry is such an impediment to seeing truth.

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                        It seems to be the popular argument that sexism can’t be inhibiting women from positions of power because there are women in power, albeit in lesser roles.

                        I’m not convinced.

                        Browse social media and there are a large portion of people saying the worst thing about Biden is Kamala. They have various reasons to support this opinion of course, but is a subconscious part of it that they just don’t want/trust a woman there or think she’ll do a good job.

                        It’s kind of like the racist excuse of “I’m not racist, I have black/Hispanic/Native friends.”

                        I’m not sexist, I’m ok with a woman being in a high position. Look at all these ones I’m fine with (that just so happen to still be located underneath a male figure on the power totem)

                        Or the ever common I’m not sexist, my wife and daughters are the most capable people I know. (I’ve never actually hired a woman to work though)
                        Last edited by Blaithin; Nov 8, 2020, 11:26.

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                          The best thing about Biden is Kamala.

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                            Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                            It seems to be the popular argument that sexism can’t be inhibiting women from positions of power because there are women in power, albeit in lesser roles.

                            I’m not convinced.
                            Trump put 10 newly elected women into congress and bunch more into state legislatures. So you are not happy about that?

                            The VP is a neutered position. It has no power or standing.

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                              Originally posted by jazz View Post
                              Trump put 10 newly elected women into congress and bunch more into state legislatures. So you are not happy about that?

                              The VP is a neutered position. It has no power or standing.
                              Trump is a misogynistic dick who talks about and treats women like all we are are tits and ass. I have no faith that any appointments he made was out of any respect for the women themselves and their abilities and more about trying to get something his way.

                              He is a manipulator, not a supporter.

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                                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                                Trump put 10 newly elected women into congress and bunch more into state legislatures. So you are not happy about that?

                                The VP is a neutered position. It has no power or standing.
                                You said she would be president in a few months?

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