Tesla Megapack

[tweety]

So a battery storage for peaking purposes will last 2 hours. I believe Mallee pointed this out earlier. So please explain Chuck2 and Tweety how this will work in Alberta in the winter. As I pointed out last winter during a week long period of -30 the windmills were generating at less than 3% of there capacity. Solar in February in Alberta only produces for a few hours everyday so how does this battery that only lasts for 2 hours ever get charged during these proven periods of a cold still air mass. So of course you must then have some sort of dependable available generation like natural gas or coal. So the environmental phucknuts would have us believe the building solar backed up by wind backed up by battery storage backed up by natural gas(building 4 generation systems) to produce the same kilowatt of energy is better for the environment!!! Think of how much more land is wasted, how many more power lines are required. I’m not a denier, I am a believer in common phucking sense!!!!

And yet the installations do make sense where carefully engineered. Perhaps the problem is your understanding.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck, that is the trouble with broad sweeping generalizations.
They are just so easy to disprove.
Only need one example to prove me wrong.
You have been trying for years without success.
As I always tell my kids, never say never, or always, or can't, someone will always come along and prove you wrong. ( see what I did there?)
I will gladly be proven wrong on this one, I am young, I have kids, hopefully grandkids, I want a future where we can continue to improve our standards of living, cheap reliable, plentiful energy is the only way that will happen. Right now the trend is going the opposite direction for the first time since the industrial revolution. Is this just a side track and we will get back on the main road, or is this what we have to look forward to, peak living standards, and peak affordable energy?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

BLOOMBERG? They print photos that are photoshopped and can't be verified or PEER REVIEWED!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

CC you should upgrade from dial-up. You could check out this stuff for yourself....

But in your fake news article from Bloomberg, with all the photoshopped pictures of blades, they also falsely claim that the blades lasted for an entire decade before needing to be landfilled:

Warren Buffett’s utility has been replacing the original blades and turbines with larger, more powerful models after a decade of operation.

and

It’s going to get worse: Most were built more than a decade ago, when installations were less than a fifth of what they are now.

I think Chuck should stick with verified news sources such as Facebook or Twitter.

Of course, that in itself shouldn't be reason not to pursue alternative energy. Nuclear was issues with waste, oil and gas have components with short lifespans due to corrosion and wear. But the difference being that during their lifespan, they produced something useful, reliable and economical that powered modern civilization, all by themselves.

[chuckChuck]

As I have said many times before we will need hydro, natural gas to backup for the forseeable future. Yes there are people who think we can go all renewables. We are not their yet. Storage will develop. Other renewable sources will develop. Hydrogen will also be developed. But many posters believe all renewables are crap, which is a load of crap! Bloomberg tells the story. Its not either or. Its all of the above.

[farming101]

" In April 2020, Bloomberg New Energy Finance found "Solar PV and onshore wind are now the cheapest sources of new-build generation for at least two-thirds of the global population. Those two-thirds live in locations that comprise 71% of gross domestic product and 85% of energy generation. Battery storage is now the cheapest new-build technology for peaking purposes (up to two-hours of discharge duration) in gas-importing regions, like Europe, China or Japan."

Those folks at Bloomberg are all Marxists, right! hahahaahah

BLOOMBERG? They print photos that are photoshopped and can't be verified or PEER REVIEWED!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

CC you should upgrade from dial-up. You could check out this stuff for yourself....

[Hamloc]

Looks like the "arm chair experts" on the electrical grids around the world and their various experiences with integrating renewable sources of electricity have either given up or decided to change the subject! LOL

A5 is back to his laughable opinion that "everywhere" renewables have been installed that the only reason electricity prices are higher is because of the renewables! Just how he knows this from the all hundreds of possible countries and electrical grids remains a mystery! LOL

The "everywhere man" is prone to sweeping generalizations and statements without providing any evidence, but this whopper is remarkable. Perhaps this explains why he is farming and not working as an engineer? Don't engineers have to actually verify and backup their plans with evidence? That certainly isn't A5's strength! Maybe he got his engineering "certificate" when he wrote into the address on the back pages of the Popular Mechanics?

Thanks to Tweety's post below A5 seems to have pulled in his horns and has returned to mudslinging!

" In April 2020, Bloomberg New Energy Finance found "Solar PV and onshore wind are now the cheapest sources of new-build generation for at least two-thirds of the global population. Those two-thirds live in locations that comprise 71% of gross domestic product and 85% of energy generation. Battery storage is now the cheapest new-build technology for peaking purposes (up to two-hours of discharge duration) in gas-importing regions, like Europe, China or Japan."

Those folks at Bloomberg are all Marxists, right! hahahaahah

So a battery storage for peaking purposes will last 2 hours. I believe Mallee pointed this out earlier. So please explain Chuck2 and Tweety how this will work in Alberta in the winter. As I pointed out last winter during a week long period of -30 the windmills were generating at less than 3% of there capacity. Solar in February in Alberta only produces for a few hours everyday so how does this battery that only lasts for 2 hours ever get charged during these proven periods of a cold still air mass. So of course you must then have some sort of dependable available generation like natural gas or coal. So the environmental phucknuts would have us believe the building solar backed up by wind backed up by battery storage backed up by natural gas(building 4 generation systems) to produce the same kilowatt of energy is better for the environment!!! Think of how much more land is wasted, how many more power lines are required. I’m not a denier, I am a believer in common phucking sense!!!!

[chuckChuck]

Looks like the "arm chair experts" on the electrical grids around the world and their various experiences with integrating renewable sources of electricity have either given up or decided to change the subject! LOL

A5 is back to his laughable opinion that "everywhere" renewables have been installed that the only reason electricity prices are higher is because of the renewables! Just how he knows this from the all hundreds of possible countries and electrical grids remains a mystery! LOL

The "everywhere man" is prone to sweeping generalizations and statements without providing any evidence, but this whopper is remarkable. Perhaps this explains why he is farming and not working as an engineer? Don't engineers have to actually verify and backup their plans with evidence? That certainly isn't A5's strength! Maybe he got his engineering "certificate" when he wrote into the address on the back pages of the Popular Mechanics?

Thanks to Tweety's post below A5 seems to have pulled in his horns and has returned to mudslinging!

" In April 2020, Bloomberg New Energy Finance found "Solar PV and onshore wind are now the cheapest sources of new-build generation for at least two-thirds of the global population. Those two-thirds live in locations that comprise 71% of gross domestic product and 85% of energy generation. Battery storage is now the cheapest new-build technology for peaking purposes (up to two-hours of discharge duration) in gas-importing regions, like Europe, China or Japan."

Those folks at Bloomberg are all Marxists, right! hahahaahah

[farmaholic]

Do I smell a burn.

[furrowtickler]

Maybe bring up something meaningless to an ag marketing forum again .. that’s all you’ve done for 15 years

[furrowtickler]

The sound of silence.... LOL