Tesla Megapack

[tweety]

What is the solar output for 90% of that northern “good” region from October to April ? Just curious is all

It is the best place if you solely look at that map , but let’s see year around numbers . How’s the solar panel performance in relative locations in winter months like Norway , Sweden, Russia ?
Those are realistic numbers to look at , not Australia.
Like getting corn yield numbers from the corn belt in the US and comparing them to corn yields here ..... meaningless

Is your goal to shut off all the fossil fuel plants or add to them and reduce operating costs and complexity? Because the industry is doing the latter. Again, why is this soooooooooo hard to accept and understand? Is it a farmer thing?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Tweety, the market is not impressed with Tesla's battery day announcements. https://t.co/9t2pY04FvP?amp=1 https://t.co/9t2pY04FvP?amp=1
Knocked another $24 Billion off the market cap in reaction.

Incremental gains as Lithium batteries are already virtually at their efficiency limits.
When the world needs quantum leaps in battery technology to make alternative energy cost effective, so we can quit discussing "most expensive electricity" and start comparing cheapest electricity.

[tweety]

chuck needs to get his maps straight, not the ones coming from solar companies and lobbying groups.

80% of Canadas populations lives further away than 1000 miles from our moderate solar zone.

We are making electric vehicles where the sun doesnt even shine. Now you see why Ford will be in Texas in a few yrs.

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Maybe you didn't notice but your map numbers are the same as Chucks map. Except you can read Chucks

[jazz]

Maybe you didn't notice but your map numbers are the same as Chucks map. Except you can read Chucks

Except chucks didnt include the actual economics or where people actually live. Two critical items in the scheme.

Now if there is some appetite for a cross country grid connection lets talk about it. I suspect there is none.

[furrowtickler]

Is your goal to shut off all the fossil fuel plants or add to them and reduce operating costs and complexity? Because the industry is doing the latter. Again, why is this soooooooooo hard to accept and understand? Is it a farmer thing?

I have no goal . Show us the numbers that are relevant, not Australia.
Understood it long ago , fact and fiction not hard to see .

You most likely have way more time on your hands this time of year .
Let’s see relevant numbers , not saying solar not going to help but relevant numbers , cost, efficiency, lifespan can be vastly different in different latitudes .
Chucks claim that once it’s paid for its free ... is laughable actually. Once it’s paid for its lifespan is nearly over and replacement needs to be factored in plus the cost of disposal and environmental impacts .
Always two sides . Promoting just one losses creditably awefull fast as is showing numbers from the other side of the world with no winter .

[dmlfarmer]

Are you on crack? A total of 350K people live in that red solar zone in the southern prairies. The yellow and orange zone is uneconomical as everyone knows including the guys who farm in those regions desperate for GDD. How the f are we going to get that power to Toronto or vancouver. LOL

How far are we willing to ship oil?

I am not sure how you are willing to argue for more oil exports globally, more pipelines east and south and support more tanker traffic so oil can be delivered to where it is needed yet at the same argue against movement of electricity from where is can be produced cheaply to where it is needed. Perhaps you do not realize Canada currently exports to the US 9% of the electricity generated. There are now 34 cross border high voltage transmission lines moving power to and from Canada and the US depending on where it is generated and where needed. The grid is already connected across North America. Energy does not need to be generated in your back yard now.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

...Chucks claim that once it’s paid for its free ... is laughable actually. Once it’s paid for its lifespan is nearly over and replacement needs to be factored in plus the cost of disposal and environmental impacts ...

Correct.

From Reuters about Germany, where this is supposedly a mature industry, able to stand on its own:

Once they became law, Haas benefited from the subsidies, known as feed-in tariffs, for selling renewable energy to the grid at about 50 cents per kilowatt hour.

Without them, he faces earning no more than the wholesale power price of around of 2-4 cents.

Protecting the environment was central, Haas said, and he hoped to continue operating his micro generation but it may cease to be economic if at any stage he faces a major repair bill.

“In that case the financial burden would become too great, meaning that in the current regulatory framework continuing to operate it likely won’t pay off,” he said.

Like other asset owners, he would have to decide whether to sell, upgrade or dismantle his generation capacity should Berlin fail to create a regulatory environment that makes it economic.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-germany-renewables-ana-idUSKCN26E0T9 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-germany-renewables-ana-idUSKCN26E0T9

[malleefarmer]

Yeah mentioned that above people forget some systems life span is 12 yr rolls royce models hopefully 25

[AlbertaFarmer5]

How far are we willing to ship oil?

I am not sure how you are willing to argue for more oil exports globally, more pipelines east and south and support more tanker traffic so oil can be delivered to where it is needed yet at the same argue against movement of electricity from where is can be produced cheaply to where it is needed. Perhaps you do not realize Canada currently exports to the US 9% of the electricity generated. There are now 34 cross border high voltage transmission lines moving power to and from Canada and the US depending on where it is generated and where needed. The grid is already connected across North America. Energy does not need to be generated in your back yard now.

Were you aware of Altalink's Western Alberta Transmission Line a few years ago? Among countless others? The opposition, the delays, the studies after studies, the NIMBY's don't want any progress, of any type. They are organizing against wind farms, and solar farms too.

[furrowtickler]

Just for reference on life expectancies....


Never made 1/2 of the life...
just sayin