Seed depth ......

[macdon02]

4.5 gal Alpine G22 Split into 3.5 in Dutch paired row openers.
Total seed depth on left was just under 1 inch
Was 1.5 before we changed quick lol

So that would be no dry in seedrow.... i think it's a lot more toxic in seedrow then we are led to believe, that goes for S15 as well imo. Going deeper, chasing moisture is magnifying the effect, imo, here. Colder ground gives what little salt is there more opportunity to fry it.

[furrowtickler]

So that would be no dry in seedrow.... i think it's a lot more toxic in seedrow then we are led to believe, that goes for S15 as well imo. Going deeper, chasing moisture is magnifying the effect, imo, here. Colder ground gives what little salt is there more opportunity to fry it.

No dry at all , and agree totally with what your saying . I have seen that many , many times

I will try to find a picture of an extremely obvious fert burn situation in Canola from a few years ago . One plugged fert run on a seed master . Difference was huge

[biglentil]

So that would be no dry in seedrow.... i think it's a lot more toxic in seedrow then we are led to believe, that goes for S15 as well imo. Going deeper, chasing moisture is magnifying the effect, imo, here. Colder ground gives what little salt is there more opportunity to fry it.

50lbs MES15 in seed row vs side banded no appreciable difference imo.

[helmsdale]

Cereals I've gone as deep as 6 inches from the top of the undisturbed soil surface to find moisture. Once you punch it out with the packer, it's about 3.5-4" below the bottom of the furrow.

[seldomseen]

I always try to seed to moisture but with clay land that can be tricky. i will almost always have moisture when seeding but come back 3 days after seeding and the moisture will always be below the seed so you have to seed deeper than moisture. I Try and keep canola under an inch and pack it hopefully enough to get good soil to seed contact. When its cold its the worst because the seed just sits there and the moisture disappears.

Wet clay dose not pack nice!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Flea beetles have been a huge problem here in recent years. I find if canola is seeded little bit too deep it takes too long to come up, That treatment must have lost its efficacy, And the The Beatles just destroy everything as soon as it pops out.
I used rigid frame drill so I see this every Time it goes over a hump, ridge or hilltop.
It always rains here, so I am usually satisfied just to have most canola seeds covered, and if 10% are on the surface, they will still grow. At least that was the plan until we had no moisture at all in May and June for a few years. Now I put it in too deep, and it never stops raining... everything is works until it doesn't.

[blackpowder]

Here you can see the precision drills from the road again.

[tweety]

Farming. And next year doing the exact same everything, the emergence will be opposite.

Always the right method but wrong year for most of us mortals.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Farming. And next year doing the exact same everything, the emergence will be opposite.

Always the right method but wrong year for most of us mortals.

Yep, I'm really good at preparing for the catastrophes we had last year with my 20/20 hindsight. And mother nature is really good at New and highly creative combinations of catastrophes to throw at me.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Here you can see the precision drills from the road again.

In a good way or a bad way? Operator or equipment deserves the credit /blame?