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    #41
    Any one use one of these Click image for larger version

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      #42
      Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
      Any one use one of these [ATTACH]5471[/ATTACH]
      I don’t but enough around this area. It’s bourgault, Deere, and some hawks and masters. Does new holland still sell a drill? 🤪

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        #43
        Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
        Any one use one of these [ATTACH]5471[/ATTACH]
        Two JD conservapaks seed the field across the road from me the past number of years. Seem to produce good crops. Just wonder what yield penalty they get from narrow row 12" spacing in cereals? There are a number of those rigs in this area.

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          #44
          Independent openers, its all Bourgalt around here. They destroyed that market. No seedhawks or seedmasters.

          But shank drills, still a good mix around. Bourgaults, JD, Case, Concorde, Flexicoil, they are all very similar.

          Wonder how ol Jimmy Pattison is making out with his big ag consolidation take over.

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            #45
            Originally posted by jazz View Post
            Only parts replaced on my 5710 in the 10 yrs I have owned it are 2 shanks, air hoses and a couple tires.

            Virtually maintenance free.

            ESN was the technology I adopted. Kept those single shoot drills in the field indefinately.

            When you see a $25k drill grow a crop as good as a $500k one, somebody in the marketing dept must have raised an eyebrow? No?
            Says the guy who started a thread a few weeks ago about how shitty his canola crop came up this year 🤦*♂️

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              #46
              No offense boys, but canola prices could drop another buck or two if they follow the route Minneapolis wheat did on testing the 06-07 low. Maybe that's what we need to put the pucker factor into the manufacturers? Right to the point they all break like the 80's before this thing hooks hard up. I wish no harm on anyone but it's a possibility, just saying.

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                #47
                Originally posted by ajl View Post
                Two JD conservapaks seed the field across the road from me the past number of years. Seem to produce good crops. Just wonder what yield penalty they get from narrow row 12" spacing in cereals? There are a number of those rigs in this area.
                AJL, Can you explain the yield penalty in cereals comment? 12” is standard spacing around here. Anything wider almost unheard of, and 10” spacing fairly common. 7.5” spacing on some disc drills too.

                All wheat studies I have seen find yield benefit at sub 12” spacing with 6-8” being the best.

                Always trying to be the best

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Simpleton View Post
                  Says the guy who started a thread a few weeks ago about how shitty his canola crop came up this year 🤦*♂️
                  That's right, same as the guy with the paralink beside me - funny what 2 months without any rain will do to all that expensive tech. Still made 60 bu a month late.

                  And I still didn't have a drill payment to make this fall.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Ache4Acres View Post
                    AJL, Can you explain the yield penalty in cereals comment? 12” is standard spacing around here. Anything wider almost unheard of, and 10” spacing fairly common. 7.5” spacing on some disc drills too.

                    All wheat studies I have seen find yield benefit at sub 12” spacing with 6-8” being the best.

                    Always trying to be the best
                    I have seen those studies as well that suggest a row width of 6-8" being best for cereals so was wondering how much yield decline you would get with a Conservapak at 12" spacing seeding a narrow row vs a 10 or 8" drill. Most of the JD conservapaks I have seed are 12" machines. Quite a few run 12" paired rows on an older Flexi coil or Concord drill around here and that seems to work well in this area.

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                      #50
                      Bigger , more complex is probably not the way of the future. A.I. smaller faster units without people , is probably where we will end up Don't need mega factories.

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