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  • AlbertaFarmer5
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    As far as I can tell, the only other two alternatives are binning the grain wet and allowing it to spoil, or leaving it in the field and losing a possibly large proportion of both quantity and quality. So if there are no lower CO2 emitting options, what is the possible purpose of a CO2 tax on grain drying?

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  • furrowtickler
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    https:////youtu.be/0J7LAhSTgxU?list=...Xa70Cf3LWNrqtg

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  • Oliver88
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    Originally posted by redleaf View Post
    I can confidently claim that I did not use any less propane or electricity drying this years crop because of the CO2 tax. It was simply an added cost. As to whether it served its intended purpose ? Well that depends on the purpose. If it was to deter use of propane or to raise funds ?
    Subsidy paid by the “makers” to give to the “takers”?

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  • furrowtickler
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    https:////youtu.be/ORyzsMZPPUg?list=...Xa70Cf3LWNrqtg

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  • redleaf
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    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    But more importantly, Chuck has stated that the purpose of the CO2 tax ( not carbon, I have no idea why politicians and Chuck, persist in ignoring the 2 Oxygen atoms in a CO2 molecule, when they make up nearly 3/4 of the mass) was to change behaviours and force everyone into alternatives, or into reducing energy consumption. So how many farmers can confidently claim that due to the added expense of the CO2 tax, they therefore used less natural gas, propane, or electricity drying this years crop? Was it an effective deterrent, or just an added cost to an inevitable operation? Did it serve its intended purpose?
    I can confidently claim that I did not use any less propane or electricity drying this years crop because of the CO2 tax. It was simply an added cost. As to whether it served its intended purpose ? Well that depends on the purpose. If it was to deter use of propane or to raise funds ?

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  • AlbertaFarmer5
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    But more importantly, Chuck has stated that the purpose of the CO2 tax ( not carbon, I have no idea why politicians and Chuck, persist in ignoring the 2 Oxygen atoms in a CO2 molecule, when they make up nearly 3/4 of the mass) was to change behaviours and force everyone into alternatives, or into reducing energy consumption. So how many farmers can confidently claim that due to the added expense of the CO2 tax, they therefore used less natural gas, propane, or electricity drying this years crop? Was it an effective deterrent, or just an added cost to an inevitable operation? Did it serve its intended purpose?

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  • Oliver88
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    Goodale promised the carbon tax wouldn’t cost farmers a cent.......another lie from that coward.

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  • helmsdale
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    Bin dried a whack in 2016 and 2018... likely the single largest reason I'm still in operation.

    Managed to push sales away from the harvest lows as I was able to keep the product in storage long enough to find a respectable price.

    It cost ALOT in diesel fuel, time, and fubarred sleep patterns, but at least I wasn't forced to sell with obscene charges on tough grain right after harvest.

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  • farming101
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    Fuel charge is averaging 6.75% for propane so far.
    Also a 16 dollar hazardous material fee per delivery

    Drying turns an otherwise unsaleable product into something that can be used to pay the bills.
    Drying preserves quality. So, it costs but it pays. It's also a lot of extra work. A lot....

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  • bucket
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    One other thing ...were large emitters not exempt?

    And does it pay to dry?

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