carbon tax

[AlbertaFarmer5]

There are few alternatives to using fossil fuels for drying grain if you need supplementary heat. Bio-mass, bio-diesel, bio-gas are options. Using waste industrial heat, using flared gas in some areas is possible.

But are the current drain dryers as efficient as possible? Do farmers need to use dryers every year to start harvest earlier?

Solar systems are used in Alberta on irrigation systems and can be used to provide electricity as well for grain aeration fans.

So there are ways to reduce carbon emissions but none that will eliminate them all together. Unless Scott Moe is planning nuclear powered grain dryers! LOL

So why didn't farmers embrace any of those options this fall? Why didn't the CO2 tax motivate farmers to install the ultimate no emissions energy source, nuclear?

[chuckChuck]

There are few alternatives to using fossil fuels for drying grain if you need supplementary heat. Bio-mass, bio-diesel, bio-gas are options. Using waste industrial heat, using flared gas in some areas is possible.

But are the current drain dryers as efficient as possible? Do farmers need to use dryers every year to start harvest earlier?

Solar systems are used in Alberta on irrigation systems and can be used to provide electricity as well for grain aeration fans.

So there are ways to reduce carbon emissions but none that will eliminate them all together. Unless Scott Moe is planning nuclear powered grain dryers! LOL

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Do i need to spell it out! LOL

Apparently, yes you do.

According to Grassfarmer's thread, farmers are facing a climate crisis that threatens our entire industry. Suggesting Rebating us so we can keep on emitting doesn't sound like you take the climate crisis seriously.

Why didn't the market based CO2 tax work to force farmers to make the responsible choice and find alternatives for drying their grain?

[chuckChuck]

Do i need to spell it out! LOL

[AlbertaFarmer5]

The answer is obvious. The NDP in Saskatchewan asked the Sask party in a joint request to ask the federal government to rebate the carbon tax for grain drying.

The Sask party said no! Why?

That isn't what I asked.

[chuckChuck]

The answer is obvious. The NDP in Saskatchewan asked the Sask party in a joint request to ask the federal government to rebate the carbon tax for grain drying.

The Sask party said no! Why?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck, I will try one last time. As simple as possible:

Why did the CO2 tax not cause farmers to reduce their CO2 emissions from grain drying this fall?

[chuckChuck]

More than 40 governments worldwide have adopted some form of a carbon tax.

https://carbonpricingdashboard.worldbank.org/map_data https://carbonpricingdashboard.worldbank.org/map_data

More evidence from Britain that carbon taxes work.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/02/climate/pricing-carbon-emissions.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/02/climate/pricing-carbon-emissions.html

"In Britain, the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution, greenhouse gas emissions have fallen to their lowest level since 1890. One key factor: A carbon tax that has prompted electric utilities to switch away from coal.

Technically, Britain is covered by the European Union’s broader cap-and-trade system, which sets an overall ceiling on emissions from key industries and allows companies to buy and sell carbon permits. But, because of a glut of permits on the market, carbon prices in Europe remained low for years and the program has had a relatively muted effect on emissions.

So, in 2013, Parliament enacted a carbon price floor under the system for certain sectors, including electricity, a policy that essentially functions as a carbon tax of around $25 per ton. That tax has encouraged electric utilities to rapidly switch from coal to somewhat cleaner natural gas. This is perhaps the clearest example in the world of a carbon tax leading to a significant cut in emissions."

[chuckChuck]

Show us the evidence that BCs carbon tax has resulted in higher emissions relative to GDP growth.

Moe and Kenney both have the option to rebate carbon taxes on propane and natural gas or give grants to farmers for the extra drying costs.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

A5 why are you worrying about the carbon tax or greenhouse gas emissions because you don't believe in human caused climate change science anyway.

So why waste our time telling us that carbon taxes don't work. According to you there is no problem so why bother discussing any measures to reduce emissions?

You best stick with losing one battle at a time Chuck.
But, yes, right now we have a solution, which has failed completely to reduce emissions, and even if it succeeded as originally intended, wouldn't even be a drop in the bucket compared to how fast the rest of the world is raising their emissions, to a problem, which even if there were evidence that it existed, our country is proposed to be a net beneficiary.

The fact that you persist on thinking that science has something to do with a belief system is the least of your problems compared to all that.

But we shouldn't let any of that stop us from punishing farmers for drying their grain, which they shouldn't be needing to do by now if global warming had of proceeded on schedule.