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  • helmsdale
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 2130

    #51


    5 more days...

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    • rumrocks
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2018
      • 1178

      #52
      If only Quebec could get a reliable supply from a pipeline, . . . it's always a sign of good management to have plan B in place.

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      • farmaholic
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 17484

        #53
        Originally posted by rumrocks View Post
        If only Quebec could get a reliable supply from a pipeline, . . . it's always a sign of good management to have plan B in place.
        Plan "B" should be the railroad, fūcken morons.

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        • chuckChuck
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 13039

          #54
          Some grain farmers cheer when a CN rail strike dispute shuts down propane deliveries that keep seniors warm in long term care homes? WTF Are you guys that idiotic that you think this will help your case?

          That message will certainly make you friends in Ontario and Quebec and help you get some policy changes that benefit western Canada! LOL

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          • jazz
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2018
            • 9308

            #55
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            Some grain farmers cheer when a CN rail strike dispute shuts down propane deliveries that keep seniors warm in long term care homes? WTF Are you guys that idiotic that you think this will help your case?

            That message will certainly make you friends in Ontario and Quebec and help you get some policy changes that benefit western Canada! LOL
            Just like people down east cheered when fort Mac burned and pipelines got cancelled and our suicide rate jumped and we got called white supremacists? Stop while I shed a tear.

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            • chuckChuck
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 13039

              #56
              Originally posted by jazz View Post
              Just like people down east cheered when fort Mac burned and pipelines got cancelled and our suicide rate jumped and we got called white supremacists? Stop while I shed a tear.
              Who cheered when Fort Macmurry burned? Anybody who would do that is also an asshole!

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              • bucket
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 17039

                #57
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                Some grain farmers cheer when a CN rail strike dispute shuts down propane deliveries that keep seniors warm in long term care homes? WTF Are you guys that idiotic that you think this will help your case?

                That message will certainly make you friends in Ontario and Quebec and help you get some policy changes that benefit western Canada! LOL
                Well. ..those old folk home's should be on solar wind or hydro power not propane....pretty arrogant if the separatist to say he wants no part of an oil state and can't go 5 days without calling Ottawa for help....for propane....

                I have no sympathy and the West should be asking for a new deal right now....


                I would be serving coffee to the striking union to stay out longer for the greater good of smartening these arrogant easterners up....

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                • blackpowder
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 9358

                  #58
                  Don't forget the furnaces still on diesel.

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                  • dmlfarmer
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1814

                    #59
                    Originally posted by bucket View Post
                    They nationalized a pipeline ...maybe its time to nationalize a railway again....plenty of albertans would like a job ...
                    Nationalization will not help. You still have unions to deal with and strikes will still happen. Just because the government replaces a private owner does not solve labor issues. In fact, it probably increases labor unrest and inflates salaries and costs even higher.

                    No, instead of outlawing strikes or adding more socialism, the government should simply pass a law that for any essential service or for any service for which there is not competition, instead of allowing a strike, any and all negotiation that cannot be settled between parties goes immediately to a jury process whereby both parties present their case before an impartial jury of Canadians chosen at random and who have the binding power to impose the last offer by either party on the other. For example, if a company is offering 1% raise over 2 years and the union is seeking 5% raise over 3 years then each present the reasons for these last offers to the jury and by majority the jury chooses either the 1% over 2 years or 5% over 3 amount and that becomes binding on both parties for the term of the contract. There is no compromise, it is either/or as determined by a jury


                    There is no arbitration, no strike, no lockouts after regular negotiation has failed. The party that made the most reasonable offer in the view of average Canadians will have "won."

                    This would stop outlandish demands in the first place and make it more likely that negotiations would result in contracts as no side would want to publicly loss in the negotiation or jury awarded contract.

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                    • bucket
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 17039

                      #60
                      Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                      Nationalization will not help. You still have unions to deal with and strikes will still happen. Just because the government replaces a private owner does not solve labor issues. In fact, it probably increases labor unrest and inflates salaries and costs even higher.

                      No, instead of outlawing strikes or adding more socialism, the government should simply pass a law that for any essential service or for any service for which there is not competition, instead of allowing a strike, any and all negotiation that cannot be settled between parties goes immediately to a jury process whereby both parties present their case before an impartial jury of Canadians chosen at random and who have the binding power to impose the last offer by either party on the other. For example, if a company is offering 1% raise over 2 years and the union is seeking 5% raise over 3 years then each present the reasons for these last offers to the jury and by majority the jury chooses either the 1% over 2 years or 5% over 3 amount and that becomes binding on both parties for the term of the contract. There is no compromise, it is either/or as determined by a jury


                      There is no arbitration, no strike, no lockouts after regular negotiation has failed. The party that made the most reasonable offer in the view of average Canadians will have "won."

                      This would stop outlandish demands in the first place and make it more likely that negotiations would result in contracts as no side would want to publicly loss in the negotiation or jury awarded contract.
                      But the current railway structure has not looked forward enough to handle our future exports....

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