Kenney and Moe should turn off the taps....

[bucket]

Calgary Herald article, “How Alberta pays Quebec’s Bills”, states that Alberta in 11 years, has paid almost $240,000,000,000 (240 billion) to transfer payments, 1.5 X what Ontario and B.C. paid together. That sure sounds fair to me. (Sarc)

Should be a pretty simple decision to say phuck you to BC and Quebec .......

[stubblejumper]

The same problem happens provincially, the western side of the province sends millions of tax dollars and all they get is a road around Regina.

[tweety]

Very little to the primary producer.........if you count the secondary industries like implement mfg and R&D .... then maybe more...but few to actual farmers....

6 to 8 billion a year.

[newguy]

The same problem happens provincially, the western side of the province sends millions of tax dollars and all they get is a road around Regina.

and the south east sask will get their passing lanes 6 years later.should take the extreme south and western part of Sask join Alberta and let the rest join manitoba.

[bucket]

6 to 8 billion a year.

Can you provide that breakdown....

[chuckChuck]

https://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/mtp-eng.asp https://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/mtp-eng.asp

Federal Transfers to Provinces and Territories

Alberta gets over $6 billion in Federal Transfers each year.

Manitoba gets more per capita than Quebec.

PEI, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia , Nunavut, Yukon and the Northwest Territories all get a much bigger share per capita of Federal transfers than Quebec.

"Now, for those of you hung up on Quebec’s take from the equalization program ($1,541 per person), what’s the real-world difference between that and the $1.7 billion ($1,417 per person) in rent that Saskatchewan collected from the natural resources sector within its borders last year?

Section 36 of the constitution states that, “Parliament and the Government of Canada are committed to the principle of making equalization payments to ensure that provincial governments have sufficient revenues to provide reasonably comparable levels of public services at reasonably comparable levels of taxation.” Section 92 grants legislatures the right to “make laws in relation to the raising of money by any mode or system of taxation in respect of non-renewable natural resources and forestry resources in the province and the primary production therefrom.”

From: Getting the facts straight when it comes to provincial equalization payments

https://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/getting-the-facts-straight-when-it-comes-to-provincial-equalization-payments https://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/getting-the-facts-straight-when-it-comes-to-provincial-equalization-payments

[tweety]

Can you provide that breakdown....

crop insurance alone..... Tax incentives, gst back, marked fuel, income stabilization pgms... No i'm not going to go find them all. All coming from single mothers tax payments struggling to make ends meet so Saskfarmer and bucket can add to their already obscene net worth. It's a cruel world.

[jazz]

crop insurance alone..... Tax incentives, gst back, marked fuel, income stabilization pgms... No i'm not going to go find them all. All coming from single mothers tax payments struggling to make ends meet so Saskfarmer and bucket can add to their already obscene net worth. It's a cruel world.

You do know that land taxes pretty much fund the education system in the province don't you? Dozens of RMs without a school anymore. That incldes teachers who work 8 months of the yr, are unionized and have full govt pension benefits. Also funds secondary road maintenance.

I think you are misinformed and jealous.

[tweety]

You do know that land taxes pretty much fund the education system in the province don't you? Dozens of RMs without a school anymore. That incldes teachers who work 8 months of the yr, are unionized and have full govt pension benefits. Also funds secondary road maintenance.

I think you are misinformed and jealous.

Diversion tactic, blame the teachers cuz then no one will notice how many tax dollars you get.

So what do you call it when the government covers 75% of the actual cost of crop insurance? A loan?

[farming101]

Diversion tactic, blame the teachers cuz then no one will notice how many tax dollars you get.

So what do you call it when the government covers 75% of the actual cost of crop insurance? A loan?

Yes, a loan.
$1,955,900,000 from the SK crop insurance program is on loan to the General Revenue Fund. It paid 1.54% interest. The program had net financial assets of over 2 billlion for 2018-19.

[helmsdale]

crop insurance alone..... Tax incentives, gst back, marked fuel, income stabilization pgms... No i'm not going to go find them all. All coming from single mothers tax payments struggling to make ends meet so Saskfarmer and bucket can add to their already obscene net worth. It's a cruel world.

Fair on a general scale...

But individually it can be much different.

A) with crop insurance they are paying for alot of bureaucrats and infrastructure that I feel are unnecessary, and in my individual circumstance, there is no "assistance" with private insurance.

B) gst back: they're called ITC's that all businesses are entitled to because the tax only applies to "value added" due to it's very nature as a VAT. Production is zero rated. In any case we are not selling a finished product anyway, so even if we charged GST on our sales the next stage would be claiming all that charged gst back.

C) Marked fuel only rebates the road tax portion of taxation. Those farming as a proprietorship get personal use with marked fuel in AB, but corporations have to be able to justify every km as business use. Farmers are still charged all remaining federal and provincial excise taxes. The only case, aside from personal use, where it could be seen as a subsidy is when a farmer decided to haul his own grain to market burning marked fuel on highway, or even business use of vehicles on highway. Personally I'd be fine with a Montana style system where marked fuel is literally only allowed Off-Highway.

D) Many are not involved in Ag-Stab. Ag-Invest however, you are very correct on.

[tweety]

Take a peak at the "payment enhancing receipts" as they are called:

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/21-015-x/2012001/technote-notetech3-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/21-015-x/2012001/technote-notetech3-eng.htm