Rain showers on que ...

[newguy]

That is no combining yesterday today tomorrow .typo on previous post.

[farmaholic]

So far Sept is living up to its reputation in spades for "potentially" being a "pissy" harvest month, I told the Apprentice it can be this way.
And yup, August didn't really co-operate well either....especially with a crop that was behind schedule to start with.

We were usually pretty lucky getting our cereals off in good shape, I don't remember the last time we will have had this big of a quality issue. Oh well, at least the yield is respectable.....we'll make it up in volume....right Bucket?

[bigzee]

So far Sept is living up to its reputation in spades for "potentially" being a "pissy" harvest month, I told the Apprentice it can be this way.
And yup, August didn't really co-operate well either....especially with a crop that was behind schedule to start with.

We were usually pretty lucky getting our cereals off in good shape, I don't remember the last time we will have had this big of a quality issue. Oh well, at least the yield is respectable.....we'll make it up in volume....right Bucket?

More rain = more feed quality = lower more pathetic prices = ..........
Sure hope da culonies pigs are going to be hungry.

[furrowtickler]

So now we will pay a seed tax to deliver feed wheat? Only in Canada.

Or , in the near future with cereals , be force to buy all seed and can not even keep your own . It will follow the canola model .
But here’s the rub , look at the current weather situation everywhere. So , like here , one was fortunate enough to get some good wheat off that looks like this ..

It’s going to be 99% pure seed , 99% germ , high vigour zero disease seed . But we will be unable to save for own use seed, so have to sell into market for an outstanding $5.60/bus . Then be forced to go buy new “seed” for $18/bus that has been weathered and not near the quality of what you originally have ....
that’s the number one problem I have with this whole seed situation, it’s going to end up just like the canola model , anyone who says so is flat out lying. It may take a few years but that will be the end result .
Yes the new seed will still have to meet certification, but situations like this current weather set up will put good certified seed in a very short supply . It happened in this area last fall after 4 weeks of wet weather and snow . Good barley and oat seed were near non existent..
this is a big issue going forward with this seed tax . Right now they just want one to pay royalties, but it will end up being controlled just like canola , corn , soybeans .... and they will try to get $60-$80 / ac out of farmers for seed just like those crops. And one could end up having to sell excellent quality seed in the elevator pit and be forced to buy weathered diseased garbage for an over inflated price .
It will happen.

I could be wrong , but the writing is on the wall ... and I have been around long enough to see it

[bigzee]

Or , in the near future with cereals , be force to buy all seed and can not even keep your own . It will follow the canola model .
But here’s the rub , look at the current weather situation everywhere. So , like here , one was fortunate enough to get some good wheat off that looks like this ..

It’s going to be 99% pure seed , 99% germ , high vigour zero disease seed . But we will be unable to save for own use seed, so have to sell into market for an outstanding $5.60/bus . Then be forced to go buy new “seed” for $18/bus that has been weathered and not near the quality of what you originally have ....
that’s the number one problem I have with this whole seed situation, it’s going to end up just like the canola model , anyone who says so is flat out lying. It may take a few years but that will be the end result .
Yes the new seed will still have to meet certification, but situations like this current weather set up will put good certified seed in a very short supply . It happened in this area last fall after 4 weeks of wet weather and snow . Good barley and oat seed were near non existent..
this is a big issue going forward with this seed tax . Right now they just want one to pay royalties, but it will end up being controlled just like canola , corn , soybeans .... and they will try to get $60-$80 / ac out of farmers for seed just like those crops. And one could end up having to sell excellent quality seed in the elevator pit and be forced to buy weathered diseased garbage for an over inflated price .
It will happen.

I could be wrong , but the writing is on the wall ... and I have been around long enough to see it

If for some reason this joke was to happen is there even enough seed growers to produce enough seed for every farmer? Like Furrow said and what quality will they be selling? Most durum in 16 was full of fuzz including seed growers. I had enough good seed of my own to use.
They can and will set the prices high because of we will be forced to buy new seed.
I didn’t grow canola this year because of the ridiculous seed cost, now cereals will be priced out of this world also.
Maybe it’s time to think about doing something else.

[jazz]

I tolerate having to buy canola seed because I need that 3rd crop in rotation. If I have to buy cereal and probably pulse seed someday that will be the nail in the coffin for this operation.

[Hamloc]

If for some reason this joke was to happen is there even enough seed growers to produce enough seed for every farmer? Like Furrow said and what quality will they be selling? Most durum in 16 was full of fuzz including seed growers. I had enough good seed of my own to use.
They can and will set the prices high because of we will be forced to buy new seed.
I didn’t grow canola this year because of the ridiculous seed cost, now cereals will be priced out of this world also.
Maybe it’s time to think about doing something else.

Let's be realistic, Canola and Wheat prices are in the tank because there is a surplus. Has $60-70 per acre for canola seed made it more profitable? The biggest problem in Canada that we have is market access, the second biggest is the weather lottery, sometimes it helps sometimes it hinders. Seed tax is like the carbon tax more costs no results!

[jazz]

You are probably looking at a future with big carbon taxes, regulation out the wazzoo, glyphosate banned or severely restricted, seed royalties. Meat banned.

This happened to some family farms in Europe where everything was controlled by the state even the weight measurement of dairy milk. Lots took some green subsidies for windmills and biogas and then stopped doing primary ag. Keep a few cows and land around for thier own use and self sufficiency, live cheap on the home place, send kids to London.

[RD414]

Don't anyone doubt the 60 to 80 dollars seed tax price. Hybrid rye thru do genetics is 70 $ an acre. Go do Tom's seed tax survey, our last kick probably

[SASKFARMER]

It’s a tax so Canadian suppliers have a guaranteed income.

Welfare for companies for duck sakes