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  • flea beetle
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2019
    • 1287

    #11
    Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
    Fair post DMLfarmer other than you overlooked the exemption farmers are getting on the carbon tax - so not only as you said 5c/litre won't put farmers out of business - we aren't even paying the 5 cents!
    Except we are paying it on the freight of fertilizer, the freight of chemical, the freight of seed, the freight of fuel, the freight of propane, the grain we produce to get it to the elevator, the grain we produce to get it to the coast, the grain we produce to get it to other countries via ship, the sale of propane, the production of fertilizer, the production of chemical, electricity, etc., etc.

    Catch my drift?

    Whooptifrigindoo. We are exempt from a 5 cent carbon tax on farm fuel.

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    • the big wheel
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 3860

      #12
      Didn’t get all the details but supposedly investigation was done in B.C. son fuel price and 13 cents is being charged above what is accounted for. Why not investigate here?
      It won’t be because people want the carbon tax to be over stated so people blame it all in carbon tax. That’s bull crap.

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      • fjlip
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2002
        • 9876

        #13
        Is it morally wrong to preach one thing and do the opposite. Of Course it is

        Well then GODDAM every F*cking Liberal, Green, Socialist, Climate Nazi...

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        • jazz
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2018
          • 9308

          #14
          dml you are really jumping through hoops to justify climate change. If a sketchy character preaches to you about something you cannot independently verify along with its failed claims and predictions but tells you its settled and not to look into it, just believe and dont worry if they do something that is opposite of what they tell you to do, thats called a cult.

          And a reasonable person stops following it at that point. The brainwashed keep going to the end.
          Last edited by jazz; Aug 30, 2019, 20:48.

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          • furrowtickler
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 22193

            #15
            Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
            Fair post DMLfarmer other than you overlooked the exemption farmers are getting on the carbon tax - so not only as you said 5c/litre won't put farmers out of business - we aren't even paying the 5 cents!
            Well I guess we don’t need to accept any of the extra carbon tax’s on all the millions of dollars of inputs ..... ya haw ...awesome, I can tell all of them to go FTS 👍👍

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            • jazz
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2018
              • 9308

              #16
              Oh no soon as I read this I thought about poor Obamas family. Hopefully they can be rescued.

              https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/united-nations-report-warns-of-drastic-sea-level-rise Leaked U.N. report warns of drastic ocean rise, millions displaced

              A leaked draft of an upcoming U.N. climate change report paints a catastrophic picture of the effects of the climate change-driven sea-level rise expected in the coming decades.
              The draft, a 900-page "special report" on the prospects of Earth's oceans and polar regions, expects "a steady decline in fish stocks, hundred-fold or more increase in the damages caused by superstorms, and hundreds of millions of people displaced by rising seas" as a result of the changes expected as climate change continues, according to the AFP, which first reported on the leak.
              The draft, which is set to be studied at a conference next month in Monaco, describes a full-court press of feedback loops if warming continues on its current path.
              First, some 30 per cent of permafrost in the northern hemisphere is expected to melt, resulting in the emission of billions of tonnes of trapped greenhouse gases, which will increase global warming and make climate change even worse. Glaciers, already under strain, will also fare poorly, with melting accelerated.

              Even before sea levels rise high enough to force large-scale coastal relocation, the report says extreme coastal flooding events will drastically increase.
              And even if emissions are capped to a level that would keep future temperature rise to 2°C -- still more than the Paris Agreement's goal of 1.5°C -- the expected sea-level rise would lead to the displacement of around 280 million people from the lower-lying parts of Earth's coastlines.
              "Even if the number is 100 or 50 million by 2100, that's still a major disruption and a lot of human misery," Ben Strauss, CEO and chief scientist of Climate Central, told the AFP. "When you consider the political instability that has been triggered by relatively small levels of migration today, I shudder to think of the future world when tens of millions of people are moving because the ocean is eating their land."
              Canada, which includes millions of square kilometres of permafrost, is estimated to be warming twice as fast as the global average, according to a report released by the federal government earlier this year. Among the risks are not only sea-level rise, but also increased flooding in the populous Great Lakes Basin.

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              • jazz
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2018
                • 9308

                #17
                Temperature has no correlation with CO2 as you would expect from a gas that makes up 3% of our atmosphere.

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                • AlbertaFarmer5
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 12582

                  #18
                  Most Canadians still believe climate change is a problem and want governments to do something about climate change.
                  Since when is it governments responsibility to enact laws, and spend taxpayers money based on what irrational and uninformed voters "believe in"? Many Canadians also believe in various gods and devils and the fairytale stories associated with them, they believe in luck, and destiny, and conspiracies. Does it follow that government needs to spend billions on each of those ridiculous beliefs, regardless of facts or science?

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                  • Robertbarlage
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 1242

                    #19

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