What is the conservative's position on primary producers????

[furrowtickler]

Yes Trudeau is a dud.
But so is Scherr .
The funniest one was the other
Day when Scheer said Trudeau caved
On NAFTA.
Yes we caved , but not as bad
As Scheer would have.
Not by a long shot.
You know it I know it .
What moron are you trying to kid.

What part of the electorate
Is stupid enough to buy that.
And if that is your base. !!!

There is no winning in the next
Election.
Not that my vote matters in conservative land anyway.
Liberal corruption never ends.
Conservatives enslave you to corporations.
And the NDP has forgotten, that you have to
Create wealth first. Before you can spread it around.

Very excellent post Sawfly 👍👍👍

[macdon02]

If anyone thinks that by voting for a traditional party based on the parties "traditional" values is gonna get you what you expect, it isn't happening. Every limp dick minority is getting a voice, so the majority is easier to ignore because you are taken for granted and religion/ politics runs deeper than blood. The minority is the swing vote between liberal and conservative and both parties NEED the swingers. So that's who they are catering to. There'll be no traditional value exerted by either. So if you are conservative you are just as far ahead as voting liberal, as voting for scheer. Figure it out boys

[jazz]

Lets start by trying to get a serious adult in there who wont break everything, then we can look for the perfect candidate if they exist. PPC? Farmers might like that party because we are pretty freewheeling types but the cities will never vote for them.

[jazz]

There'll be no traditional value exerted by either. So if you are conservative you are just as far ahead as voting liberal, as voting for scheer. Figure it out boys

That's called Italian style govt. 10 different parties representing 10 different groups all locked into a minority dance. Maybe that's the best outcome. Nothing gets done, but little damage too.

[tweety]

You will get the same level of attention from any government that has been invested in the relationship with them which for grain farmers is basically nil. Its why SM5 gets all the bucks. Let's spend more money on fertilizer trials, not in governmental relations and complain about it with posts on Agriville.

[rumrocks]

Being able to think on their feet, have a thick skin, understand logic, excel at common sense and honesty, and show genuine compassion [not fake tears] for the less fortunate, and understand how economies work, are some of the characteristics that politicians should have. Some are blessed with all, but most come up short.

The problem is you don't know how they will perform until months after you put a X beside their name.

[macdon02]

Being able to think on their feet, have a thick skin, understand logic, excel at common sense and honesty, and show genuine compassion [not fake tears] for the less fortunate, and understand how economies work, are some of the characteristics that politicians should have. Some are blessed with all, but most come up short.

The problem is you don't know how they will perform until months after you put a X beside their name.

And the last politician you were not disappointed in after they were elected was ......?

[fjlip]

Being able to think on their feet, have a thick skin, understand logic, excel at common sense and honesty, and show genuine compassion [not fake tears] for the less fortunate, and understand how economies work, are some of the characteristics that politicians should have. Some are blessed with all, but most come up short.

The problem is you don't know how they will perform until months after you put a X beside their name.

Rather vote for devil I don't know that the useless village IDIOT I do know too well...

[rumrocks]

And the last politician you were not disappointed in after they were elected was ......?

Winston Churchill, he enjoyed whiskey and had some great quotes.

Ralph Cline, he enjoyed beer and had some great quotes.

John MacDonald, he enjoyed whiskey and had some great quotes.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Winston Churchill, he enjoyed whiskey and had some great quotes.

Ralph Cline, he enjoyed beer and had some great quotes.

John MacDonald, he enjoyed whiskey and had some great quotes.

Good answer.

I would add Trump to the list, firstly because, expectations were so pitifully low, that it would be nearly impossible to disappoint, and secondly because he has actually attempted to do what he promised, whether you agree with it or not.

Cretien, He was as corrupt as any other Quebec politician, so no disappointment there, but otherwise, he delivered most of what he promised, and there was no false advertising in his demeanor.

[rumrocks]

Lets start by trying to get a serious adult in there who wont break everything, then we can look for the perfect candidate if they exist. PPC? Farmers might like that party because we are pretty freewheeling types but the cities will never vote for them.

Jazz, that is so true "Get a serious adult in there who won't break everything " bingo!, that's all it would take to turn this country around.

[Crestliner]

And the last politician you were not disappointed in after they were elected was ......?

Grant Devine-best Premier and political farm advocate that I am aware. His policies have helped lots of farmers stay on the land and weather financial problems and are still working to this day.

Farming is a tough cyclical business that goes from rags to riches and vice a versa depending on the year (ie:weather and markets) and big events that are beyond the control of the farmer and that has a great financial impact.

Oh the Banks love to lend in the good times, best friends they are, but first sign of trouble, “I’ll take your farm that took 80 years to build and sell it to your neighbour for a loss and blame it on you”.

Grant Devine policies put the Banks into a process that made them behave and work it out and let the good guys that have management skills recover and survive the bad events.

Oh the Banks have complained for years that the farm laws restrict capital to farms and make the interest rates farmers have to pay higher because of the “Saskatchewan Farm Legislation”.

I would rather pay 2% more on money for some protection from a Predatory Lender....which what most Bank become when tough times hit.....including FCC!!

Farming is so very capital intensive and needs so much cash. It’s worse than ever. No lenders are friends of the farmer no matter what the lip service they give.....and the worst part today is that more judges than ever are former Bank farmer clean up lawyers that do not give a shit about farmers and the stupid rules the government put in place to protect them.

If a downturn hits it will be really tough for high leveraged farms to work it out as there is no Grant Devine in the wings to make sure they stay on the land...which is really a good policy for all of this sparsely populated province.

Farms take generations to build. Sometimes maybe junior is too optimistic and borrows too much....or maybe stupid family members who don’t care about the land want their share of money from an estate so they can piss it away living in the city....:and before you know it the farm has to lever up to pay them out....many things cause excess farm debt and unfortunately this industry needs some form of Goverment help and understanding to make policies that help smooth out the extremes...:.we seem to lack these people at this point in time.

[malleefarmer]

Have I got this right you have one liberal/left party and two conservative/right parties?

So onservative vote is split?

[the big wheel]

Have I got this right you have one liberal/left party and two conservative/right parties?

So onservative vote is split?

One of the conservative right parties is newly formed so not established yet will be first election to tell if how much it has effect. The ndp are also splitting votes to the left as are the Green Party left. Technically the conservatives should have been in power a lot more than they have which shows the election situation in Canada.
Western Canada usually goes something like 90% conservative all the time eastern Canada has more seats and usually goes left. If the conservatives want to win they have to pick up many seats in Ontario usually or rely on a dead even split of ndp and liberal left. Usually. The new Conservative party was formed in the assumption the old conservatives have been too left on many issues. But their leader has been a bit whacky according to some. Almost trump like to others. So it will be interesting.

Provincially I won’t even get into it as far as I should we have all duds every party. The ndp left were in so long and became so useless that a corpse could have defeated them finally and when they were defeated we all thought what a great thing and it appeared so as man we were told look at how rich we were we just didn’t know it. And as it turned out the new party couldn’t manage a 2 year olds check book. And us farmers have been the ones paying for it rhe most and we put them there. But as I m sure you can tell from this forum there are some so brainwashed or bought off that they will admit it s shitty but won’t demand better from the current gov and continue to give their votes for nothing. Keeping us locked in a worse political situation could be imagined. Saskatchewan = political Dudville.

You almost could be convicted or suspected of any kind of fraud there is and still be elected a sask party rural mla provincially because we re so scared to elected a crooked Hopefully someday the zombies wake up.

And federally the same could be said about conservatives west and liberals east.
We really only vote mostly about what to do with the oil money in the west and what to do with minorities and immigrants in the east.

I would say a real conservative government. Doesn’t exist in Canada. It simply can’t get the votes. So we have these fakers fool us enough to think they are only once in awhile to disappoint us hugely.

[dmlfarmer]

Have I got this right you have one liberal/left party and two conservative/right parties?

So onservative vote is split?

There are currently 16 registered federal political parties in Canada. Six of the parties are currently represented with at least one seat in the federal government. Seat numbers in brackets. Parties need 12 seats to be recognized as a party in the House of Commons so really there are only 3 recognized parties at this time, 2 left leaning and 1 right leaning.

The NDP (40), Green (2), and Bloc Quebouis (10)(only runs candidates in Quebec) can all be considered Left leaning.
The Liberals (177) are seen as center left
The Conservatives (95) are seen as center right
The Peoples party of Canada (1) would be right.

There are also 13 seats which are held by independents or are vacant at this time.