On the front lines: Trade war sinks North Dakota soy growers

[the big wheel]

So indias domestic reasons are ok for you but the US domestic reasons are trump is bad? Just trying to get to the root of your TDS and totally hypocrisy.

Trump killed the canola trade too?

Omg can’t you get it?indirectly yes. We were put in a crazy position with the that Huawei exec not that we handled it good in fact badly but it is all stemming from that dipstick to our dipstick.

[jazz]

So chuck and agstar lets explore your ideas. You like china buying our ag products. Guess you are missing that couple dollar premium on canola and 40% lost volume. Got it.

So we go back to what it was 3 yrs ago. The ag commodities fly off to china in exchange our tech, military secrets, patents are all give freely to them? Our companies set up shop there and get shaken down and never get access to the chinese market. Their companies set up here and take over (LNG, BC Real Estate). We allow Huewei to embed into our 5G network complete with their facial recognition credit score. We allow some of our GDP to be siphoned off in the name of low quality cheaper products like t shirts and shoes until china steals enough of our tech that we are buying combines from them? We allow their military and empire aspirations to be unchecked.

Just to be clear, this is what you want?

So if you get $12 for canola and $17 for soybeans, that's worth giving up the rest?

And when china gets to the size it wants and stops buying any ag products at all, what will we grow then?

[bucket]

This is a sarcastic remark....

We will continue to lose money on every bushel but we will make it up on volume.....

[jazz]

Just to be clear, this is what you guys are ok with because you miss a few bucks on canola.

There was a reason greenland was in the news this week.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46386867 How Greenland could become China's Arctic base

China is flexing its muscles. As the second richest economy in the world, its businessmen and politicians are involved just about everywhere in Asia, Africa and Latin America.
Now, though, China is taking a big interest in a very different part of the world: the Arctic.
It has started calling itself a "near-Arctic" power, even though Beijing is almost 3,000km (1,800 miles) from the Arctic Circle. It has bought or commissioned several ice-breakers - including nuclear-powered ones - to carve out new routes for its goods through the Arctic ice.
And it is eyeing Greenland as a particularly useful way-station on its polar silk road.

[sawfly1]

More likely it will be Putin land.
After Denmark rebuffed Trump
On the sale .
Trump now has a childish excuse to do nothing
When Russia in invades Greenland.
I think it is all part if the plan

That is why Trump wants Putin back in the G8
So he can kick him out after the Greenland invasion.

[jazz]

So this is ok too? We shouldn't worry about it? Orange man bad. China is our friend.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate U.S. Companies

The attack by Chinese spies reached almost 30 U.S. companies, including Amazon and Apple, by compromising America’s technology supply chain, according to extensive interviews with government and corporate sources.

[sawfly1]

No it is not ok.
But you right wingers were leading the charge for globalization. 20 years ago.
Regan Bush. capitol should be free to go where ever.
You did not like protected union jobs in Detroit.
Remember.
You got your wish .
So suck it up.
It was only the far left, that did not want it.
You really think global capital has a conscience?
Dream on.
You have the cheap stuff you wanted.
With out paying good union wages.
So be happy.
Find some thing they want to buy from you.

[jazz]

No it is not ok.
But you right wingers were leading the charge for globalization. 20 years ago.
Regan Bush. capitol should be free to go where ever.

Do I sound like the kinda guy who would support globalization as it currently stands? Not a chance.

[grassfarmer]

So this is ok too? We shouldn't worry about it? Orange man bad. China is our friend.

No, but i'd back the yellow race against orange man any day. Trump will be a pimple on the butt of American history before long but the Chinese civilization will endure as it has for thousands of years.

[malleefarmer]

Really hitting hard here in wool industry this weeks markets had very subdued chinese buying